Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) YesPlease tell us all WHEN you found out then. Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) YesPlease tell us all WHEN you found out then. Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?

Ed,There are five points I've outlined for you.  Please address them IN ORDER, so that I know exactly where your understanding breaks down.

Actually Wm,God calls Jesus His servant many times in scripture.  The writers of the NT followed suit in this regard.For example:Ezekiel 34:24I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David will be prince among them. I the LORD have spoken.Ezekiel 37:24My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd. They will…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 22 2011,05:35)When I hear hooves in the night I think of horses.I don't think you even stop at imagining zebras.To you it's a herd of unicorns.Stu doesn't even realize that he was in Africa when he heard the hooves in the night, and therefore the noise WAS made by zebras, and not horses.So as it turns out, what we were…[Read more]

Yes Pierre,This is also what the Biblical scholar Barnes believes.  He believes the man of lawlessness is the Roman Catholic Church, and that the force that was keeping him in check was the Roman Empire.  Once it fell, the leaders of the church were free to set their bishops and such up as Gods themselves.I don't think it is the church in g…[Read more]

Apparently not all of it – because Jesus doesn't know the day or the hour, right?

Hi Wm,That verse speaks of servants of Jesus – not servants of Jehovah.

Quote (ftk @ Nov. 25 2011,05:21)The truth I have come to isn't easily found. Its not on the surface because even the translators were religious and believed it should say and mean certain things.Agreed!  That's why I use sites like NETBible and biblos.com.  You can see the various ways different translators rendered a verse, and then compare t…[Read more]

Ed, these are YOUR words:“Hi Mike,Don't be too hard on him, you wrongly thought I ran Kathi off before you found out she left because of family problems.”Again, WHEN did I “find out” she left because of family problems?  I don't recall ever “finding that out”.  I don't recall Kathi ever saying that is why she left for a while.As far as I know, s…[Read more]

Ed, these are YOUR words:“Hi Mike,Don't be too hard on him, you wrongly thought I ran Kathi off before you found out she left because of family problems.”Again, WHEN did I “find out” she left because of family problems?  I don't recall ever “finding that out”.  I don't recall Kathi ever saying that is why she left for a while.As far as I know, s…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2011,14:08)Now that we agree that the honorable and blessed Jesus Christ is a servant to Jehovah it is most certainly reasonable to say that all that come before Jehovah is as a servant.Agreed. Pretty soon, there will be those who are servants of Jehovah, and those who are in the lake of fire. I don't believe there…[Read more]

Ed, Let's take this one step at a time, so we can see exactly where your understanding breaks down – ie: where you start adding your own thoughts into the scriptures.  Please address each point individually.29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 24 2011,21:37)Kerwin our souls are not still alive when we die, no scripture say that.Luke 20:38He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”Revelation 6 9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the t…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 25 2011,02:22)Gene, I have noticed that you seem to pretty much disagree with many scriptures on many topics. This is more than a trend Gene. I would be concerned if I were you. You seem to take the opposite tact on many things that are spelled out clearly in scripture. This shows rebellion.Amen!

Ed, Let's take this one step at a time, so we can see exactly where your understanding breaks down – ie: where you start adding your own thoughts into the scriptures.  Please address each point individually.29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 23 2011,10:48)ED J………..Don't worry about it Pierre is only expressing his mental abilities.  He is not about the sincere meat of the Word of GOD.And YOU are “about the meat”, Gene?  Isn't it YOU who has to add his own words into the scriptures to make them form around your own doctrine?Isn't it YOU whose own w…[Read more]

Irene,How are you and Georg coping? Are you holding up okay?

Well, to be fair, Gene is just going by the flawed KJV translation in this case.Many more years of research have made it clear what Job was really saying.

Hey all,I think God has showed me a way to end the discussion about the pre-existence of Jesus once and for all.29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’It is CR…[Read more]