Gene,There are three questions I've never asked you before waiting for you in the incarnation thread.People couldn't have answered these questions before, because I only asked them of Ed 3 days ago, and of you yesterday.Are you AFRAID to answer them, Gene?

Gene,The questions are:Do you agree with Ed that verse 30 refers to Jesus? YES or NO?Do you agree with Ed that verse 15 refers to Jesus? YES or NO?

First of all, it is not me who is saying it, but scripture.  There are more than one meaning of “logos” in scripture.  Sometimes it just refers to a spoken or written word by anyone.  Other times, it refers to the very words spoken by God through angels or prophets.  And still other times, it refers to God's main spokesman, Jesus.The verses I jus…[Read more]

Ed, I'd no sooner ask you to tell me about Muslims than I would ask you to tell me about Jehovah's Witnesses.  Your EXTREME bias AGAINST those two groups has shown through on this site for at least two years now.I just feel I'd get more accurate info about JWs from David, and about Muslims from BD.  They are members of those respective groups, a…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2011,17:42)If you are called the last Adam and Adam is called the son of God how could you be the only begotten or the first born?You're leaving a little out of the story, aren't you?     Jesus was the last Adam “according to the flesh”, as is many times pointed out for us in scripture so as to distinguish Jesus' f…[Read more]

Gene,Don't you have a question to answer in the pre-existent thread? And three of them in the incarnation thread? Chop-chop little man.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 26 2011,17:21)Mike i and others don't want to deal with you repugnant stupidity any longer. You mean like when I quote the ACTUAL WORDS OF SCRIPTURE that show you to be wrong? Is that the “repugnant stupidity” of which you speak?

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 26 2011,16:09)…….because since it’s had been cut off, it cannot remain in the original state as a mountain……..Agreed.  And that's all I'm trying to say.  If you take a rock FROM a mountain, the rock is not “the mountain itself”.If you take a drop of water FROM the sea, that drop is not “the sea itself”.If you take a p…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 26 2011,15:32)Anointed as you said a person promote another person for a mission but using oil as a sign of consecration.Also anointed means chosen, so Jesus was chosen, but not promoted by the Father and smeared or rubbed with oil and conscrated.Now all Christians are anointed, chosen for a specific purpose in furthering…[Read more]

Will do.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2011,15:52)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 27 2011,08:29)Ha ha that is so funny. You all believe in a literal lake of fire.Do you believe in a literal heaven? If so, why do you choose to believe in one as described and not the other?Some of us let our emotions override the teachings of scriptures.  Like, “God is so nice, He…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2011,15:50)So there you have it begotten sons and daughters that are not Jesus so it would be reasonable to look at your claims slightly different they were all servants and they were begotten on that day in which they became born again in the sense of repenting from evil and when repenting from good one is then called…[Read more]

Keith, Here's another one that Charles has seemed to avoid:Jehovah is the Most High God. (Gen 14:22)  And Jesus is the SON OF the Most High God. (Mark 5:7)  Do you accept these scriptures as truth, Keith?

I'm undecided. Why? Does my percieved image of the lake of fire or souls have any bearing on what I said?

Charles,A statue made FROM the stone of any particular mountain does not remain that mountain from which it came. Keith, it doesn't really matter how “YHWH” was pronounced in Biblical times, because none of us pronounce “Jesus” the same way it was pronounced then either.I find it HILARIOUS that both of you would try to say, “Well, since we don't…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 26 2011,12:12)Really? Was it the divine name or four Hebrew consanants?Keith,Do you really want to play with semantics?  Do you acknowledge that God Almighty has a Name?  Do you acknowledge that He gave this Name to Moses?  Do you acknowledge that this Name was NOT “Jesus”?I you were to be honest, you will ac…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 26 2011,13:41)Regarding senses, you appear to be telling me you have some special way of knowing stuff that doesn't involve the senses.  How does that work?What “human sense” tells you that a being climbed out of the primordial soup ocean and on to land, and then evolved into beings that live on oxygen while simultaneously…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,12:07)Hi Mike,Are you aware of what their god teaches?Ed,This thread is for discussing who the Man of Lawlessness is. I have had very little interest so far in Muslim religion. I am still focused on clearing up issues within the Christian community – such as pre-existence and Trinitarianism.Perhaps I will talk to BD…[Read more]

Keith and Ed,There is only one God who created all, right?  Therefore, He who is the God of the Muslims is He who is God of Christians, and even Satan worshippers and Trinitarians.There is only one God, and He is God of ALL – whether or not everyone knows it.I thought the Muslims believe in Jehovah as the only God. Am I wrong?

Ed,Are you aware of any time that Kathi left HN because of what SHE claimed to be “family problems”?