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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Eddy?  Were you going to address the last two posts on page 204?

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    Hi Asana,Since I don't believe Jesus is God Almighty, or that Mary is the “Mother of God”; and I do recognize that God Himself never mated with any human woman, then I really don't have a need for the Quran, right?If Muslims believe the same things as I do, (as it seems you do), then why are Christians and Muslims at odds?Can anyone tell me of a…[Read more]

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    How about:1st time: Assyria2nd time: Babylon3rd time: RomeAnd now Israel is no more until he comes, whose right it is to govern God's Nation.(Just thinking out loud)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2011,22:57)The way people are classified here doesn't even make sense and begs for people to be hypocrites just so they can stay in the fold. Why make it where only people whom you decide should have a view have a view? Think about it what's the difference between disagreeing wit a particular doctrine and disagreeing…[Read more]

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    Gene,It is YOU who avoids questions all the time, and I'll prove it once again right now.Quote was Cyrus from above or below, seeing he was “PROPHESIED” to Come 200 YEARS before He ever EXISTED,Cyrus was from below, Ed. He was never said to have pre-existed his flesh.There, I DIRECTLY answered your question. Now, please address my points, ONE BY…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 10 2011,09:19)That was YAHWEH or the LORD OUR GOD Speaking, He is a living SOULThen by your own definition, Yahweh must be comprised of a body and a spirit, right? Because those are the two things you say make up a “soul”.

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    Revelation 32 Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. 3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.Tim, Jesus said the above words…[Read more]

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    So Tim,I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. Now, if I go rape a 3 year old boy tonight, are you saying it's only a sin IF I acknowledge it as such?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    That's right Gene.  And Yahweh was identified in John 1:1 as “THE God” the Word was WITH.  The second mention of the word “theos” in 1:1 is not “THE theos”.  So here's what we KNOW about John 1:1.  Whoever the Word was, he was a god who was WITH “THE God, Yahweh”.  (Yahweh cannot be WITH Himself)2.  We know the Word was a PERSON, and not a thing…[Read more]

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    Hi Irene,The racist comments came from the preacher at the end. And the fact that whoever put the video together added that sermon in, after showing films of how Kiwis and Haitians handled a bad situation, linked the whole video to the racist comments of the preacher.Without the preacher at the end, I agree that it would have been a comparison…[Read more]

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    Quote (ftk @ Dec. 10 2011,05:26)You can't be “in Christ” and “sin” because “sin” is something you believe you have that separates you from union with God. If you believe Christ has taken “sin” away by his sacrifice then there is no more “sin” thinking in you!!But I don't believe that. I believe God offered up His only begotten Son as an atoning…[Read more]

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    Agreement is good, especially when those agreeing are in agreement about what the scriptures actually teach.  :)So, where do you as a Muslim fall away from my beliefs?  If you believe in only one God, Jehovah, and His “uniquely brought forth” Son, who had glory alongside his God before all things were created through him, then where is our d…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,20:56)Mike,Yahchanan most certainly would have a reason to say “… and the word was with Yahweh …” And just what was that reason, Frank?Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,20:56)but since you say things that Scripture does not say, I most certainly do not care to seriously discuss Scripture with you.:)  Says the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2011,21:16)Mike,Quote EVEN Trinitarians, and others who think Jesus is either the Father he is the Son of, or the God he is the Son of. Trinitarians do not believe that.KathiKathi, If Trinitarians believe Jesus is God Most High, then they believe that Jesus is the God he is the Son of. What are you saying they don't…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 09 2011,21:25)You all seem like a really nice bunch. Very courteous and respectful of one another. I like that very much. Looking forward to our many conversations and topics.That's an optimistic observation! :) We do have our battles here, and they sometimes get pretty heated. But it is a small group of regulars who…[Read more]

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    Gene, below is the actual post.  I will put numbers by the points that need addressed, since you can't seem to figure this out on your own.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2011,07:12)Now for you Next question do i believe Jesus came down from heaven , yes (IN) this sense, He had a preplanned berth from God……………Hi Gene,1.  Couldn't that s…[Read more]

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    There are many points, Gene. Read my last post to you – the 3rd one on page 7. And then actually address those points DIRECTLY, if you don't mind.

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    Quote (ftk @ Dec. 09 2011,04:53)….I BELIEVE THAT IN THE EXACT SAME WAY AS PAUL CHASTISED THE GALATIONS 3:1… FOR….TURNING BACK TO WORKS FROM FAITH…..THE MOST DEADLY SEED OF THAT TIME AND NOW…. THAT DESTROYS THE WORK OF JESUS….Okay, so what you are clearly saying is that EVEN AFTER I've accepted Jesus, I can STILL spread a deadly seed by…[Read more]

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    Quote (ftk @ Dec. 09 2011,04:53)THOSE IN THE BOOK OF LIFE HAVE ALREADY BEEN JUDGED…..LIFE IN CHRIST…..LIFE ONLY…..ETERNAL LIFE!….WHEN YOU ACCEPTED THE WORDS OF GOD FROM JESUS THAT YOU ARE PERFECT UNTO ALL SALVATION…..THAT WAS YOUR JUDGMENT! IF YOU HOLD FAST TO THAT FAITH THERE IS NO FURTHER JUDGMENT.Revelation 20Another book was opened,…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,14:45)Mike,Would not Father Yahweh's word literally being separated from Him render Him speechless?Well, there ya go then. If the the Father's word is ALWAYS with the Father, like YOUR head is ALWAYS with you, then John would have no reason to say, “and the Word was WITH the Father”, anymore that I would have a…[Read more]

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