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    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 12 2012,16:58)Wakeup brought up a good point.If God has no beginning, because he is from everlasting, then why do the scriptures say, In the beginning was the word?Because the Word in John 1 refers to the Word of God mentioned in Rev 19:13. It refers to a being OTHER THAN God Himself – a being we know as “Jesus”.In the…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2012,15:10)Yes.   You can make them yourself in the kitchen sink using a soap solution as a proxy for other similar naturally-occuring organic molecules.  Seeing them is a bit difficult, but they are there.So these are actual, LIVING beings, that come to life spontaneously by themselves?  And there is NO other living thing in…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Jan. 12 2012,04:21)Hi Mike,If you chose to believe what some preacher told you that a parable means instead of what Jesus himself said,that is your choice.Hi Tim,I don't go to any church meetings, nor do I have a preacher who tells me things.  The Bible is my guide.  And if you are not able to see from the scriptures I quoted t…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 12 2012,10:04)I am not against the bible.  I am simply pointing out that it is often wrong and unreliable.I haven't read where you showed me it was “wrong” yet.  I've only read where we don't fully understand what was being taught.Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 12 2012,10:04) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,06:34)WIT, can you e…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 12 2012,09:01)Mike is completely wrong in his “Many” Meanings of the word Spirit IMO.Hi Gene, For over two months now, I've been giving you the perfect scenario to show everyone how I'm wrong.  All you have to do is answer the following simple question:Luke 24:37They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a spir…[Read more]

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    So Marlin,Is the Word of God also the God he is the Word of?  Is the Father of God also the God he is the Father of?  Is the Son of God also the God he is the Son of?  Is the Holy Spirit of God also the God it is the Holy Spirit of?I think you need to brush up on the meaning of the word “of”.The scriptural passage you posted says NOTHING about Go…[Read more]

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    And what “nature” is “God”?For example, there are billions who share “human nature”.How many beings share “God nature”?It seems to me that in order for it to be considered a “nature” at all, there must be more than one being who partakes in that nature.And if you're speaking about “spirit nature”, then it works, because there are many beings who…[Read more]

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    I agree about the excessive celebration part.  These clowns today don't even have to score to celebrate.  They dance around like they're God's gift to the game just for doing what they're paid millions to do – like tackling the dude with the ball.But I'm glad America is advanced enough to know this is a sport that certain people do for a small p…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,19:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,12:27)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,19:22)I did, Peter wasn't there he went out and wept bitterly, no one was there according to the scriptures that must have been fulfilled.I think Ed meant in light of your claim that they all fled, and therefore couldn't have come back…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,19:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,12:23)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,19:12)Hi MikeWrong approach because Muhammad agrees that they thought Jesus was crucified so obviously if they thought that wasthe case that would be their report.Mark 9:31 He said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into t…[Read more]

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    And until then, it didn't exist?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2012,21:28)Toby.The angels are spirit,and they have a body; a glorified body.Jesus was given a glorified body,and we will also be given a glorified body………..Right on, Wakeup.

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,19:22)I did, Peter wasn't there he went out and wept bitterly, no one was there according to the scriptures that must have been fulfilled.I think Ed meant in light of your claim that they all fled, and therefore couldn't have come back later.The fact that Peter DID come back to Jesus after he fled refutes your…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,19:12)Hi MikeWrong approach because Muhammad agrees that they thought Jesus was crucified so obviously if they thought that wasthe case that would be their report.Mark 9:31 He said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will r…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 11 2012,18:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,10:19)Frank, Are you able to offer a VALID reason why the Word of God in John 1:1 and 14 cannot possibly be the same person as the Word of God in Rev 19:13?Mike,As I have said MANY times on this forum thread: The “word” in Yahchanan 1:1 is not Yahshua as a pre-existent being…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,17:30)Was John really at the cross as he said or did ALL the disciples forsake him and fled like Matthew and Mark says?They fled the hill from which Jesus was taken captive, right?Is there scripture that says they never came close to him again? Obviously not, for after Peter fled, he followed and hung around…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,18:20)Quote (TimothyVI @ Jan. 11 2012,23:22)I merely said that Jesus did not dumb down anything to make it easier to understand. Your point is correct TimMatthew 2432 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when y…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2012,18:18)Now go eat your bacon and pork chops if you are a real believer in what Paul preaches otherwise you are a hypocriteMmmmmmmmmmmm………………..Bacon and pork chops! Don't forget ham! Yummy! :)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 10 2012,20:17) Evolution could be discredited tomorrow, and the bible would still be wrong and unreliable.Yes WIT,I understand that you aren't necessarily for evolution, as long as you can be against the Hebrew and Greek scriptures.Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 10 2012,20:17)Here's what I wrote, and you ignored, in my last post…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2012,02:03)Chemical micelles, which form spontaneously, can do something that looks very much like a form of cell division.Do they actually reproduce themselves, making MORE of them than there were before?  And from what do they form spontaneously?  Inanimate matter?(And since you have told me that living beings were “…[Read more]

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