Quote (toby @ Feb. 06 2012,20:23)Hi Mikeboll.  Sorry, but exactly what is your point again? Are you trying to prove that Spirits have bodies by hanging off the word 'Spiritual'?Is that all of the 480 pages of attempts at a proof come down to?I have made more points in these 480 pages than you could even come close to addressing.And the proof of…[Read more]

We must all use our God-given logic in order to understand what exactly the scriptures are teaching us.Say what you want, Nick, but surely Jesus did not consider the man of whom he said, “Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist” to be a thief and a robber.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2012,09:00)ACCEPT THE FACT THAT EVEN IF SATAN IS CALLED “THE PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR” AND IS OPERATING IN OUR “NOW” IS A FAR CRY FROM CALLING HIM “HOTHEOS.” YOU HAVE NOTHING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT CALLS SATAN “HOTHEOS” AS I HAVE PROVEN FROM 2 CORINTHIANS 4:4.KJJack,Why do you keep narrowing the search to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 07 2012,08:38)Mike………..You and T8 and Pierre ,can not believe Jesus is a GOD, but you can believe Satan is a GOD…………..We do believe Jesus is a god, Gene. He is the god who was with THE God in the beginning.Jesus, Satan, and many others in heaven and on earth are the gods that Jehovah is the God of. Hence…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 07 2012,08:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:15)We know that the Son of God can't possibly be the God he is the Son of, Jack.  Does that make us “arrogant”?Mike,………….that's what the majority of christians believe in since the moment Jesus glorified.Well, I have to grant you that, Charles. There is a vast amount…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 06 2012,20:59)Your'e very arrogant because you insist that satan is God when you have been disproven.No I haven't.Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 06 2012,20:59)You must first disprove the concept of plural unity in God before you can disprove that Christ is God. You have never disproven plural unity in God and never…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2012,21:16)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2012,10:42)T8……….Wrong the LOGOS became FLESH (IN) Jesus.The word in is not there Gene.It is in your own head.I can't even count the number of times I've said this same thing to Gene in the last two years. You left out one of their additions to the scriptures, t8. In John 17:5,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2012,20:56)We still do not know what capacity the Logos played in creation.We only know that God made all things THROUGH.It's better to not imagine your own scenario, and then find a way to form the scriptures around it.I've listed seven different scriptures now that clearly describe Jesus as someone other than the One who…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2012,19:37)Hi MB,ALL who came before him were thieves and robbers-according to your and my Lord.Surely Jesus did not have God's other prophets, kings, and anointed ones in mind when he said those words.  Surely he didn't refer to Elijah, Samuel, and John the Baptiser.

Thanks Nick,But I have scripture. Also, I barely have the time to keep up with current correspondence.

That's right, Nick. BY God and THROUGH Jesus. (1 Cor 8:6)He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing is created is another – TertullianOnly one of them created……………..the Word is “another”.

The kingdoms of the earth have been given to Satan.  That's how he was able to offer them to Jesus.  (Luke 4:6)This has nothing to do with darkness overcoming light.  It has to do with the way God has done things.  Satan didn't TAKE these from his God – they were given into his hands for the time being.(Edited to change “Satan did” to “Satan did…[Read more]

So God's christ Cyrus was a theif and a robber?  Isaiah 45 NIV ©1 This is what the LORD says to his MESSIAH, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armour, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:2 I will go before you   and will level the mountains; I will break down ga…[Read more]

Yes, and until that time, the kingdoms of this earth have been given into the hand of the god of this world.The prayer is that God's will be done on earth eventually, as it is done in heaven right now. That time is not yet upon us.

Are we going to have the discussion here………….. or in the other thread? Make up your mind, Nick. I can only keep up with so many threads.I never said they were “men”, as I believe no man can be in the spiritual realm of heaven. Men are of flesh, and flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, which is currently in heaven. (1 Cor 15:50,…[Read more]

Just bits and pieces, Kathi. I'm weaning myself off of the long, drawn out discussions the best I can. peace to you,mike

Nick,Are we not already having this discussion in a different thread? Shall we discuss it twice? Or would you like to move the discussion to this thread?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2012,18:02)Hi MB,The only other christs are false ones. Either you are part of the body of Christ sharing his powers and gifts or just another onlooker.Psalms 105:15 NIV ©”Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.”The word there is the Hebrew word “messiah” (of which the Greek translation is…[Read more]

One anointing, but many anointed ones. Jesus is but one christ of many.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2012,08:33)They also teach that one must do certain hours a week(must put on record) preaching from door to door; working for the lord they say.Yet In luke It says; GO NOT FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.(luke10:7.)Do you really think that Luke 10:7 teaches us not to go door to door preaching the gospel?