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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    I'm saying the Bible is correct on both counts. So, how do you explain Paul saying that we have but ONE lord, Ed?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,19:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2012,12:32)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,18:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2012,11:55)(Btw, I'm still waiting for the answers to my three questions.)Mike,You can wait till your blue in the face. The evidence I have presented, take it or leave it. Your choice!Why Frank?…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,19:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2012,12:30)So God created mankind to die?  Or did God tell them if they ate of the fruit they would die?  Which one?It was Adam and Eve who CHOSE to sin, therefore bringing death to us all.  Frank, death ENTERED the world through one man.  Apparently death wasn't already in the…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    Nick,Would you argue with John's revelation, in which Jehovah is called “the Lord God” many times?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    But is Jehovah still our Lord? Is Jesus also our Lord? The answer to both is “YES”.How can this be if Paul says there is for us but ONE lord? ???

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    1. No, and don't care.2. No, and don't care.3. Yes.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,18:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2012,11:55)(Btw, I'm still waiting for the answers to my three questions.)Mike,You can wait till your blue in the face. The evidence I have presented, take it or leave it. Your choice!Why Frank? Because you CAN'T answer the questions? :)Perhaps your friend Nick would take a shot…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    So God created mankind to die? Or did God tell them if they ate of the fruit they would die? Which one?It was Adam and Eve who CHOSE to sin, therefore bringing death to us all. Frank, death ENTERED the world through one man. Apparently death wasn't already in the world.And the fact that God can choose to know the outcome of anything anytime…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    I don't care too much for you articles, Frank. I have disected a few of the ones you've posted here, and brought the many flaws in them to your attention – remember?You seem to find sources who tell it the way they WANT it to be, and not the way it really is according to scripture.Now, on the other hand, if you have any SCRIPTURAL evidence that…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    So who is our “owner” Ed? Jesus, like many scriptures say? Or Jehovah, like many scriptures say?

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,23:44)Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 15 2012,23:39)Quote 1.  Why would God tell the Pharisees that HE existed before Abraham?  Didn't they already know this?  ???2.  If it was GOD speaking through JESUS, then there are TWO mentioned, only ONE of whom was GOD.MikeB, These are not problems for me, they are problems for you and…[Read more]

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    Ed, just show us how they can both be right.

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    Quote (toby @ Feb. 15 2012,03:59)Mikeboll, do you ever wonder why you struggle so much with this topic?There have been about 40 people who have commented on this thread since I started it. There have been 2 people who don't believe that angels have bodies (and one of those two flip flops back and forth from time to time).Yet you say that I'M the…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 15 2012,15:36)Jesus was created by His Father and placed in Mary.Hallelujah! Marlin, this is the scriptural truth of the matter. Jesus was CREATED by his God and our God – as was everything in existence.He is not the God who created, but the first creation of that God.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 14 2012,22:58)Quote You apparently think Jesus IS God because God was in him.  Therefore, if God is also in you, you must also be God like Jesus was, right?MikeB,I don't think that Jesus is God, I KNOW that He is God.I thought you knew more of the bible then that, but it must be correct what has been said, that you don't…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,22:16)Technically Jesus is: “owner” but NOT “THE OWNER”!Hmmmm…………………That adds up to TWO lords, Ed. Didn't Paul say there was but ONE lord? ???

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,18:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2012,11:09)Frank, despite what you posted last night, no one in their right mind prays that God will restore upon them the glory they USED TO HAVE with Him in heaven.Being foreordained to someday have glory alongside God in heaven is a far cry from anyone REMEMBERING the glory…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 15 2012,18:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2012,10:55)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 14 2012,20:17)Mike,What was is the “much” that you believe Yahshua gave up that no one else would give up?Immortality alongside his God.Mike,Yahshua was not an immortal being along side of his and our Father Yahweh in the beginning. If he…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Frank, despite what you posted last night, no one in their right mind prays that God will restore upon them the glory they USED TO HAVE with Him in heaven.Being foreordained to someday have glory alongside God in heaven is a far cry from anyone REMEMBERING the glory they ALREADY HAD in heaven.Jesus remembered the glory he had in heaven, and asked…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 14 2012,20:17)Mike,What was is the “much” that you believe Yahshua gave up that no one else would give up?Immortality alongside his God.

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