But surely it wasn't the spirit of the anointing who said Father, glorify ME, was it?

No time. If you've got something to say, then just spit it out. Save the riddles for the others here.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,18:43)Hi MB, The anointing Spirit on Jesus is the same as on the prophets.It seems that you, Gene, and I agree on this.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 16 2012,18:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 17 2012,11:14)If he never took pride upon himself, what pride did he empty himself of?Mike,So, so it it your stance that Yahshua was wise and in favor with his and our Father Yahweh from his very birth?Now what question do you propose that I have not yet answered YOU (Mike) who are…[Read more]

Nick, nobody questions the meaning of the “mono” part. Of course it means “ONLY”.I thought you were falling in with the latest Trinitarian twist that “genes” doesn't refer to bringing something/someone into existence.

Frank,Was it a DIFFERENT spirit of anointing that God placed upon David?  Upon Cyrus?  How do you know? We know that Jesus got more of it, for God gave it to him without measure. But tell me how the spirit itself was a different spirit than the one God placed on Jesus?They were all christs of God, after all.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 16 2012,18:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 17 2012,10:23)If he never took pride upon himself, what pride did he empty himself of?Mike,So, is it your stance that Yahshua was perfect and without sin from the very beginning of his birth? If so, I wonder how you can come to this conclusion when there in no record whatsoever of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,17:42)Hi, You cannot speak of Jesus Christ without speaking of the man AND the anointing.Are we allowed to speak of David Christ as just a man? How about Cyrus Christ?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,17:28)Hi MB, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever.The anointing is united with him.So the history of the anointing Spirit belongs to him.So then it was the anointing spirit that called God “Father” in John 17:5?  The anointing spirit is the SON of God?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2012,17:58)Mike………….Show one scripture that say Jesus or angels don't have bodies in Heaven then.I believe that they do, Gene.  And there are no scriptures to say they don't.  You'll have to hit your friend Toby up with that challenge, okay?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2012,17:58)Again for the hundredth t…[Read more]

Ed,I've lost interest. Let me know if you ever just want to say how they can both be right, okay?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 16 2012,17:21)My belief is that Yahshua emptied himself of pride in that he never took upon himself pride in being boastful or proud………….If he never took pride upon himself, what pride did he empty himself of?

Nick,”Mono” means “only”, or “alone”. “Genes” derives from the word “ginomai”, which has as its first definition: to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be,.The word is used in scripture about 7 times in reference to a parent's only begotten child. Nick, the newest Trinitarian trend is to claim that “monogenes” doesn't really refer to…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 16 2012,16:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 17 2012,09:08)Nick,Could you tell me what Frank cannot?WHEN was Jesus existing in the form of God?WHEN did he empty himself of this form/existence?WHEN did he subsequently become made in the likeness of a human being?Mike,I have told you clearly in my previous posts that Yahshua…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Feb. 16 2012,03:54)But I thought Mikeboll said we were to only talk about Spirit Beings in the Spirit realm?Actually, you sometimes attribute things to me that I haven't said.  (For example, 4 or 5 of the beliefs you listed as mine yesterday were not what I believe.)I did not specify “spirit realm only”.  What happened was that you s…[Read more]

Hi Wm,Aren't both Jesus and his God able to dwell in us?You said:Quote “Spirit of” implies there is something else the “spirit of” belongs to.I was just pointing out that “spirit of” in the case of God doesn't imply there is something else the spirit belongs to – so why would it automatically imply that in the case of Jesus?

Ed,They are both called “Lord”, although Paul says there is but ONE “Lord”. How do you account for this……………BESIDES making up your own meanings for the word “lord”? (Because you can't just claim without any evidence that when Jesus is called “lord”, it means “master”, but when God is called “lord”, it means “owner”. Are not both Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,12:54)Hi MB, Why would you look for possible scriptural disharmony when God has made things plain?Is it a game?I see no scriptural disharmony, Nick.Many people have problems understanding Jehovah when He says that apart from Him, there is no god.  They must start imagining that all other mentions of gods in the…[Read more]

Nick,Could you tell me what Frank cannot?WHEN was Jesus existing in the form of God?WHEN did he empty himself of this form/existence?WHEN did he subsequently become made in the likeness of a human being?

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 16 2012,13:39)Maybe you forget all the scriptures that I put up in Proverbs, each in several translations, comparing how the words in question are not translated as you would like to impose.Why would we only consider one Book in the Bible?  Weren't other Books also written in the Hebrew language?  So why would you limit o…[Read more]