Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,19:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2012,11:45)Yet that whole passage is about Jesus.  He is mentioned by name in verse 11, and verse 14 is still talking about Jesus.  It is saying that JESUS partook of flesh.But you have even bigger problems with this chapter, Nick.  You say the Word is God Himself, because th…[Read more]

I'm merely pointing out what the scripture actually says. Is the scripture correct, Nick?

If they are joined together, then one cannot give of what's his to the OTHER. One cannot bring glory to the OTHER.Nick, it speaks of TWO, not one.

Yet that whole passage is about Jesus. He is mentioned by name in verse 11, and verse 14 is still talking about Jesus. It is saying that JESUS partook of flesh.But you have even bigger problems with this chapter, Nick. You say the Word is God Himself, because that's how you illogically understand John 1:1, right?So who did God give the children…[Read more]

Yes Nick, “things”. Please answer the question.Did the spirit (ONE THING) bring glory to Jesus (ANOTHER THING)? Isn't that what the scripture says – that one will bring glory to the other?How can that be if we are only talking about one?

Who partook of flesh, Nick?

Ed and Nick,Well?  Did one thing bring glory TO another thing?  Or did the Jesus/spirit combo being bring glory to himself?Which one does the scripture support?

Nick,I await an answer to my question about what John really meant – according to you.Ed, I await a DIRECT answer to my question.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,15:51)Hi, Jesus CHRIST One with the Spirit since the JordanThat doesn't clear up my last post, Nick.ONE thing brought glory TO ANOTHER thing. ONE thing took from what belonged TO ANOTHER thing.There is no way the words could be speaking of only ONE thing. Instead, the words speak of TWO things, the spirit and…[Read more]

So then John meant, “the Word came to be in unity with flesh” instead of “the Word BECAME flesh”?Come on, Nick.

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 19 2012,22:40)In other words, the beginning of the building of Joe Schmoe would be the hiring on of the architect.Your theory would only work if a verb was used – such as “hiring” or “begetting”.  But “Jesus” is a noun, not a verb, so my understanding fits better.Beginning of humans – a human (noun).Beginning of animals -…[Read more]

Ed, I haven't the foggiest idea of what you're prattling on about.

Scripture doesn't argue with scripture, Ed. And there is no way I could “make it” do so.Please answer the question that Nick could not.

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 19 2012,20:09)Logic plays a very important role.Thank you, journey. I agree.

Quote (toby @ Feb. 20 2012,05:31)Terraricca, I ask you again: can you show evidence of 'Spirit with Body in Heaven'.Can you show evidence of “Spirit being without body in heaven”?We have many eye witness accounts to fall back on. What do you have?

Quote (toby @ Feb. 19 2012,20:23)Does the Spirit of Man have a body?Once again, spirit BEINGS have bodies. Things like “team spirit” do not.

Quote (toby @ Feb. 19 2012,20:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2012,10:23)Yes Toby,IMO, most of what you post is unrelatable, unscriptural, unprovable garbage.Mikeboll, is it because you cannot refute anything that I wrote that you cannot post against my last post to you…………I can refute all of it, starting with the fact that Jesus NEVER said…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Feb. 19 2012,20:23)The 'Heavenly Tent' is the Spiritual Body.You are correct.  The heavenly tent is the spiritual body with which the elect, whose citizenship is in heaven, will be clothed.  God will not leave them naked (bodiless).

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,16:00)Hi, The word became flesh.So at the exact time that the Word BECAME flesh, did the Word cease to be spirit, Nick?

Ed, You went away for a while. You had told me that “lord” in the case of God means “owner”, while “lord” in the case of Jesus means “master”.Yet Paul tells us there is but ONE lord, Jesus Christ. And he says that right after saying there are MANY lords in heaven and on earth. He also tells those of us who are slaves to obey our earthly lords…[Read more]