No Kerwin,The Word is who was WITH Yahweh in the beginning. Good point about Yashua being a very popular name, and therefore not “the name above all other names”.

Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2012,15:00)so I may not understand all things but I can not see why those two men would be in heaven before the dead of Christ ,their SOUL yes but living with a new heavenly body NO,Pierre,Jesus was the first to be raised FROM THE DEAD.  Enoch and Elijah never died.

It seems to me that Kerwin and Nick are believers in the old excuse, “The Devil made me do it!”.  Many people like this mentality because then they aren't really responsible for their own decisions and actions.  They use the devil as a scapegoat for when THEY THEMSELVES make a bad choice.I am not of this mentality.  Every angel AND human being Go…[Read more]

Show me what scripture says, Nick. Show me where scripture says that every sinful act man commits is a direct result of Satan or one of his demons.

As opposed to the NON-REASONABLE things YOU claim? Mindless fluff.

Oh, I'm wrong?Then address the 4 lines in my post and show me what the passage really says, Frank.Because you just claiming over and over that Jesus didn't pre-exist is worth nothing to any serious Bible student.  Show me the scripture that PROHIBITS the pre-existence of Jesus as a sentient being/entity.If you'd like, while you're searching the…[Read more]

Nick,Are you trying to say that you believe Satan and his demons are responsible for every sinful urge that mankind has?If you are, then just SAY IT already.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,13:09)Hi MB,Yes you have a preferred option to fit with your lesser god idea.Btw, thanks for acknowledging that “a god” IS a viable option for me to prefer.And thanks for acknowledging that I prefer the option that actually makes sense and aligns with scripture, while YOU prefer the option that does neither of…[Read more]

As opposed to your “God was WITH God, but then became NOT God” idea?As opposed to your “God sent Himself down from heaven, not to do God's will, but to do God's will” idea?As opposed to your “God was His own witness, while God was His second witness” idea?Yeah, I'd say things are shaping up rather nicely for an “a god” translation of 1:1c.Do you…[Read more]

Mindless fluff.

Drivel.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 06 2012,13:13)Nick,Yahshua did not have any relationship with Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word until he was immersed by Yahchanan in the Jordan? Not in accordance with Scripture clearly teaches!Hallelujah!  Nick, this just goes to show that you just can't claim things without scriptural support.  No one is buying w…[Read more]

Then “the Holy Spirit in Jesus” cannot possibly be what/who BECAME flesh, right?For “the Holy Spirit in Jesus” to BECOME flesh, “the Holy Spirit in Jesus” must have been existing as something OTHER THAN flesh before it/he BECAME flesh.So, was “the Holy Spirit in Jesus“ existing as something else before it/he became flesh?

Nick,Let me know when you're ready to either make a direct claim about something scriptural, or at least tell me how your questions have anything to do with my answers to Kerwin.

Nick,Did you not notice the CHALLENGE I threw at you in my last post? I CHALLENGED you to show us SCRIPTURALLY where my perspective is wrong. But you can't, can you? In fact, not one of you guys were able to do that when I made a bold-faced challenge to all of you a couple of weeks ago, right? Tell me Nick, does John use the phrase “Jesus…[Read more]

Nope. I don't argue with scripture at all. I do argue with the asinine interpretation of “THE God” in John 1:1c, but not with the scripture itself.

Too small? You either DO believe what I posted……….or you DON'T. Nick, we all realize that you like to remain vague, and not go too much into scriptural specifics. I figure you do it this way so you won't have a chance of getting cornered with your unscriptural doctrines.But if you want to discuss scripture with ME, we will be getting…[Read more]

Please explain to me why my answer to your question has anything to do with my answers to Kerwin's questions.Either make a point or shhhhhh……………

Oh I'm well aware of the fuzzy picture you attempt to portray, Nick. Please DIRECTLY answer my question with something like, “That is correct, Mike”, or “No, that is not what I believe, Mike”.Get the picture? ADDRESS the point in a clear and direct manner by which I can tell what it is you do believe. Okay champ?

Nick,First please list the scripture you reference, and secondly, how my answer to that question would have anything at all to do with the answers I just gave to Kerwin.You do those two things, and I will respond.