Quote (jammin @ May 21 2012,18:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2012,11:27)Quote (jammin @ May 20 2012,21:49)no mike. the angel of God is God himself. that is the son of the father who is himself God.So Jesus is an angel of God?  I agree.  Hosea 12:3-4………and with his dynamic energy he contended with God. 4 And he kept contending with an angel a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2012,18:29)Hi MB, So you do not accept Heb 1 where it is made clear there is a distinction between Jesus and the angels?2 Kings 25 27 In the thirty-seventh year of the exile of Jehoiachin king of Judah, in the year Evil-Merodach became king of Babylon, he released Jehoiachin from prison on the twenty-seventh day of the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 20 2012,21:49)2. we are talking about the nature. if your father is man by nature, you are also man by nature.the father is God by nature, the son is also God by nature.That doesn't answer my question, jammin.We know from scriptures that God Most High has a Son named Jesus, right?Does Jesus have a Son named Jesus? YES or…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 20 2012,21:49)no mike. the angel of God is God himself. that is the son of the father who is himself God.So Jesus is an angel of God?  I agree.  Hosea 12:3-4………and with his dynamic energy he contended with God. 4 And he kept contending with an angel and gradually prevailed.jammin, did Jacob wrestle with “God”?  Or with “a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 21 2012,14:46)Mike……….interesting thing about “YOUR” Beelzebub “GOD”  you believe in as Satan, but “Strong Concordance” say it was a DUNG GOD of the Chadians and even all you expounding of this GOD of Yours shows it does not (IN FACT) “REALLY” Exist and did not ever “EXIST” at the time of the Pagans, nor in Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 20 2012,21:52)mike. does the verse says all things or all that is in the land?The verse says “all that is in the land”, jammin.Do you suppose that King David LITERALLY knew all that was in the land? Or do you suppose it was an emphatical statement like in 1 John 2:20?

For jammin:1 John 2:20King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.International Standard Version (©2008)You have an anointing from the Holy One and know all things.King James 2000 Bible (©2003)But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.American King James VersionBut y…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 21 2012,14:25)Mike and Jammin;Another Scripture for thought:1 John 2:27King James Version (KJV)27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall…[Read more]

Good one, Nick.

Quote (t8 @ May 21 2012,16:59)I look forward to seeing how he dodges this one.Hi t8,I see he has tried to dodge it with one of his famous cut and paste jobs.  Let's see if he can answer my follow up question of “WHY?”(Btw, great post at the top of this page.)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2012,16:56)Hi MB,You have got to grasp the spiritual if you want dialogueThere was a time I wanted dialogue with you, Nick.  That was before I watched you run from serious problems in your doctrine – pretending that those problems didn't exist, although they were being placed right before your eyes by me, t8, and…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 21 2012,16:34)This word di' (dia') is often translated “for,” “because of,” or “on account of.” Any one of these is much better in Hebrews 1:2 than by or through. Why? Because neither by nor through agrees with the message in the sentence. On the other hand, because of and on account of do agree.Great! Now tell my WHY.…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 21 2012,14:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 19 2012,14:24)Hmmmmmmmm………….  Frank, you claim that the word “dia” in Heb 1:2 means “FOR, BECAUSE OF, or ON ACCOUNT OF”, correct? Well, the same word “dia” is used in John 1:3.  So does John 1:3 teach that all things were made “FOR, BECAUSE OF, or ON ACCOUNT OF” the W…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2012,19:59)Hi MB, Can you not yet understand?I can't understand why it seems so hard for you to answer direct questions.

I suppose I tend to “forget” the things that aren't actually taught in the scriptures, Nick.But how does your response answer the two questions I asked of you?

Quote (942767 @ May 20 2012,15:57)Hi Mike:I may be wrong in my statement above relative to the firstfruits being all who were saved during Jesus ministry because of the following scripture:Quote 1Cr 15:20 ¶ But now is Christ risen from the dead, become the firstfruits of them that slept. And so, he is the “firstfruits of them who slept” and then…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2012,13:04)There may well me those that were caught up into heaven; as were Elijah and Enoch.This is how I understand it, Kerwin.I believe that the firstfruits ARE those who would not taste death before Jesus came again, who ARE those souls under the altar who were put to death because of the word of God and the testimony…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2012,10:33)Mike;All the dead have tasted death………..Matthew 16:28 I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”Then who were these?

The actual Hebrew says:But my lord has wisdom like that of the angel of God, to know all that is in the land.I guess King David must also be God Almighty, since he knew “all things”, huh? Good use of scripture to support your point, Kerwin.

Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2012,09:52)They are the souls of dead Christians as they are told to rest awhile.I agree. And while most souls await the resurrection from Hades, where they are conscious of nothing at all, these particular souls await the coming reign of God from His presence, conscious of their surroundings and wearing white robes.Do you…[Read more]