Quote (kerwin @ July 13 2013,15:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2013,21:59)Was this Word (demiurge) a living BEING, independent from Jehovah?Mike,There is a difference between a personification and a person.Fantastic. Thanks for that.Now would you ANSWER the question I asked?

Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2013,00:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2013,02:48)1.  Is your AKJV wrong each time they write “most high God”?  YES or NO?1) No…………Okay then.  1.  If the AKJV is CORRECT in translating “most high God”, please identify for me one of the “less high gods” that Jehovah is higher than.Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2013,00:09) Quote…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2013,00:08)Because  “there is no God beside me”(Isaiah 45:5)  is “an emphatic statement”.Is the statement you quoted an EXAGGERATED statement, Ed?  Here is the definition once again:  An exaggerated statement is used to heighten affect. It is not used to mislead the reader, but to emphasize a point.And here are the facts onc…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2013,00:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2013,02:48)Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2013,20:42)Apparently Peter says he does “know all things”.And DID he truly and LITERALLY know ALL things, Ed?  YES or NO?Hi Mike,This question is irrelevant to what we are talking about.And furthermore it calls for speculation on my part.Matthew…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,03:14)The Book of Jasher (also, Jashar) or Book of the Just Man (Hebrew sēfer ha yāšār ספר הישר) is an unknown book mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. According to the Medieval Jewish scholar, Rashi, Sefer HaYashar refers to the Pentateuch………..These are the comments to which I referred in my last…

Well, I said in the other thread that I definitely will read it, but then Pierre posted information about this “unknown” book, and information that Jewish tradition holds that Jasher is really another name for the Pentateuch.Now I guess I'm going to have to research into what we know today as “The Book of Jasher”, and find out if it is indeed the…[Read more]

That guy was doing some heavy-duty sleuthing there, huh? I would like to hang with him for a few days, and discuss scriptures and related topics with him.I'm with him in wondering why everyone is Caucasian in that JW book except for the servant girl. Even the Egyptians are depicted as being white folks.And how do their pictures portray events…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2013,15:42)biblesuite.com says “eloah” is prol. from el. I have no sound idea what prol. abbreviates.Maybe it is southern English, and means: “prolly” – ie: “probably”.

Quote (abe @ July 12 2013,14:48)Col.3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and *in all*.Abe,This is the only of your scriptures that say Christ is “in” anyone at all. And it is quite clear from the context that Paul was speaking about those who have…[Read more]

Psalm 8 NET Bible8:4 Of what importance is the human race, that you should notice them?Of what importance is mankind, that you should pay attention to them, 8:5 and make them a little less than the heavenly beings? 14Footnote #14 says:Heb “and you make him lack a little from gods .” The psalmist does appear to allude to Gen 1:26-27, where man…[Read more]

I'm impressed by the time and research that went into your post, Daniel.  It is obvious that you are willing to search the scriptures, which is what this site is all about in the first place.  Well done.That being said, you are inadvertently glossing over one major detail:  The writer of Hebrews clearly says, “But there is a place where someone ha…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 12 2013,06:38)Mike,What do you believe this scriptures means then? Psalm 115:16 (NIV) 16 The highest heavens belong to the Lord, but the earth he has given to mankind.Blessings brother – WmGod has given mankind FLESHLY dominion over the earth He created for them.Psalm 82 demonstrates that God also assigned SPIRIT…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2013,18:21)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,22:42)So using Jewish word use of the First Century and Scripture I have covered the first four verses of the John without inventing a religion different from the Jews of the day.Okay,I'd like to walk through those scriptures using baby steps, if you don't mind.So far, I'm hearing…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2013,20:42)Apparently Peter says he does “know all things”.And DID he truly and LITERALLY know ALL things, Ed?  YES or NO?Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2013,20:42)Are you saying an “emphatic statement” is an 'untrue statement'?Perhaps I should be saying “exaggerated statement” instead of “emphatic statement”.  Here is an example f…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2013,14:57)Mike,So you have no evidence the relationship the El of the Canaanites to the El of Abraham was not like the relationship of the God of the Trinitarians to the God of the Jehovah witnesses and yet you choose to deny that relationship anyways.Therein lies the confusion, Kerwin.You believe that the JWs and the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,20:06)and yes Kerwin try to prove what he can not according to him EL  is equal to god and so it is not a name but a distinction title ,and so can be applied to any god high or low god wood or gold ,Jehovah insisted that the Israelites not follow in the practices of the Canaanites, whose land they were being…[Read more]

Ed,I want REAL answers to my questions……. not DODGES like you're doing.  Re-do your last three posts, answering my questions in a DIRECT and HONEST manner please.As for your questions:1.  No, I didn't say men used to be gods, but aren't anymore.  Re-read my answer, and find out what I REALLY said, okay?2.  Example of an emphatic sta…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2013,18:31)Gene,El is the singular Elohim.  I believe Elohim is used for God to represent that he is not only a god but god magnified.  Both names are written in Scripture.Some believe that “el” has nothing to do with “elohim”, and that “elohim” was derived as the plural of “eloah” – which itself is unrelated to “…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2013,18:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2013,03:58)Different scholars disagree about the original root of “el”, but they all seem in agreement that the word “el” itself means “mighty (one)”.Do you also agree with this definition?Mike,I do disagree as El means God in English and Theos in Koine Greek.  Strength is attribute…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2013,18:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2013,10:44)How did they turn water into blood?Hi Mike, Perhaps it was demonic powers at work?Now that is a very SENSIBLE understanding, Ed. And these demonic powers were called “the gods of Egypt” by Moses and Jehovah, among others.“they sacrificed to demons…….. to gods their…[Read more]