Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2013,19:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2013,07:31)Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,19:21)Hi Mike,1) I'd say JEHOVAH deserves to take credit for those he sends.(1)Agreed. But if that reasoning works for “only savior”, why doesn't it work equally well for “only god”?(2)Of all the many gods, both in heaven and on earth, not ONE of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2013,19:55)Remember your new approach, which allows for my perspective of truth, and not just yours alone; which goes no-where towards “OUR” mutual understanding.Ed,I like you, so I hope you don't take this the wrong way………  If our mutual understanding involves me exchanging certain scriptural truths for your flawed…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2013,19:54)I follow the Jewish Kosher laws.Why? Are you a Jew?

Quote (4Thomas @ July 15 2013,19:36)If Paul or any disclpe wanted us to believe that angels are Gods they would have said so in the new testament, but they didn't.1 Corinthians 8:5For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords)2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded…[Read more]

I've been told that the more recent Watchtowers and Awakes portray a more “Jewish looking” Jesus……. but I can't say I'm an eyewitness of this.t8, I started reading the Jasher you linked yesterday, and it seems like a re-cap of the Pentateuch to me. That fits with the Jewish rabbis who say “The Book of Jasher” really means “The Book of the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,18:45)2) The Apostles handled “The Word” of God by writing the books of the bible.Oh, so the “Word of Life” in 1 John 1 is the Bible, and NOT the Holy Spirit? Why then would you use that scripture as support for your claim that the Word is the Holy Spirit?1 John 11 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,18:41)(Note: the Disciples also spoke by the HolySpirit)Did they speak BY the Holy Spirit? Or did they literally SPEAK the Holy Spirit?

Quote (kerwin @ July 15 2013,20:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2013,05:28)Quote (kerwin @ July 15 2013,10:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2013,05:36)Quote (kerwin @ July 14 2013,13:41)Mike,Demiurge is a personification.Personification of WHAT exactly?Mike,Philo, a Jew, uses demiurge, archangel, and other titles usually associated with a person to…[Read more]

It makes you wonder how much of the world news is faked for ratings or other personal agendas.

Quote (kerwin @ July 15 2013,21:05)Mike,Root beer, Pepsi can dissolve bolts. I used to drink over a gallon of soda each day. Mountain Dew, to be specific.I switched to tea a couple of years ago………… and ended up losing about 30 pounds as a result. I didn't change anything else about my diet, just dumped the soda.

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,19:21)Hi Mike,1) I'd say JEHOVAH deserves to take credit for those he sends.Agreed. But if that reasoning works for “only savior”, why doesn't it work equally well for “only god”?Of all the many gods, both in heaven and on earth, not ONE of them would have the power to pick his own nose if it wasn't given to him from…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,19:29)OK, but I'll have to skip the Pepsi, I eliminated “high fructose corn syrup” out of my diet.  Hi Ed,In what seems to be a strange turn of events, we may be making some headway after all.  You said:Quote Hi Mike,1) I too believe the false god 'Molech' was really a fallen Angel. So I kinda think we agree here.Okay.  …[Read more]

Quote (abe @ July 15 2013,16:14)I can not see it any Plainer than this.I haven't a clue what point you're making to Gene, Abe. Does anyone else know what point Abe is making to Gene? If so, could you translate into English for the rest of us?

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,18:02)Are we still on for tea and crumpets?What are you – a Brit? How about a burger, fries, apple pie, and a Pepsi?

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,17:59)1) Was Molech a fallen angel or a false god? 2) 'Idols' are indeed false gods, even if you disagree.1.  I believe Molech was a demon………. a living breathing entity.2.  Moot, because the word “idol” is not mentioned in Deuteronomy 32:17.  Instead, Moses wrote about demons – and called those very demons “gods th…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,17:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2013,10:16)Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,16:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2013,03:22)1.  Was Jehovah every one of the saviors He SENT, Ed?  YES or NO?2.  Was our savior Jesus Christ REALLY Jehovah Himself?  YES or NO?Hi Mike, 1) YHVH is “The Savior”, because he used men does not change tha…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,17:52)Hi Mike,Jesus said that applies to us (ref. John 10:34).Jesus referenced Psalm 82, which speaks of the other elohim in the heavenly assembly – the ones Jehovah rules over and passes judgment upon.You are correct though, that these represent some of the less high gods that Jehovah is the God of. Well done, Ed!  

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,17:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2013,10:03)Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,16:03)Hi Mike, I don't believe it is exaggerated one bit, because there are no other gods.You mean there are no other ELOHIM, right?No, I mean there are no other gods.Did Jehovah say there were no other GODS, or no other ELOHIM?Which one Ed?

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,17:44)The bible says all have fallen short of the glory of God, do you include Jesus as part of “all” in that verse? …I do not.Good one. Yet ANOTHER example of an exaggerated statement in the scriptures!

Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2013,16:37)Hi Mike, I like your new approach!1) Correct.Then I'm afraid you'll probably dislike the old approach I used in the “ISM” thread a minute ago.  1.  In what way did the disciples SPEAK the Holy Spirit?  Did they talk, and the Holy Spirit itself came out of their mouths?  Did the Holy Spirit stop being exc…[Read more]