Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,12:20)2). God always speaks through His living Word;always.    Sometimes The Word send's His angels to speak on His    behalf.Revelation 1:1   The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and *signified it* by his angel unto his…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 14 2014,08:49)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)The word simply means “one who has been anointed by God”.  Jesus Christ cannot be God Himself, because he is one of the ones God anointed.This is just another example of “bringing Christ down”.  He is just like “David” and “Solomon”, no big deal.Well Mike, he stands out far above the r…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,19:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2014,11:21)1 Samuel 12:3 KJV Behold, here I am: witness against me before the LORD, and before his anointed……..The Hebrew word translated as “his anointed” in verse 3 above is the same Hebrew word translated as “Messiah” other places.In the Greek translation of the Hebrew OT (the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,18:58)Jesus calls Himself servant…….So not “God Almighty Himself”, but a servant OF God, right?Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,18:58) ….he was send by His Father…….So not the one who SENT, but the one who WAS SENT, right?  Which of the two is the greater, according to Jesus himself?  (John 13:16)Quote (Wakeup @…[Read more]

What say YOU, Kerwin?

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,19:14)MikeB.You dont believe that God can give *HisownWord*a form. That is too much to take for you.That is beyond your comprehension.I believe it's ludicrous to think that God spoke a word (or words) out of His mouth, and that word (or words) became a living breathing being other than God. And then that word (or…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,18:26)Mike B.Many, many gentiles were drawn by God,and became Christians.Why just “many”? Why not “all”?And what of those who WEREN'T drawn by God? Did God just cast them aside as not worthy? If so, why did God only choose SOME of us to be drawn? Was God playing favorites?

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,12:20)1).You should be able to decern the scriptures,but it seems that you dont.God was speaking Of His glory and of the lamb.What is men's glory?Compared to God's glory?All the glory of this world is no comparisonto God's glory.……… and one for Wakeup:None of what you wrote there tells me that the servant OF God,…[Read more]

One for journey…………..Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 14 2014,08:49)Hi MikeAccording to my knowledge, Christ means “Messiah”.  The Jews were waiting for their Messiah.  I know King David was never referred to as “Christ” as they were not expecting him to be “the one”.  Same with King Solomon.  Both men were favoured by God, yes, but to call the…[Read more]

That definition is VERY confusing to me. Walk me through what exactly that means, using laymen's terms.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2014,09:57)You have chosen to remain blind and follow the teachings of men rather than the teachings of God.That's YOU, Kerwin.  Here, let me remind you of the things said about “the Word”, which are also said about “Jesus”……The italicized words below are things said about “the Word” in John 1.  The scriptures listed i…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 14 2014,08:06)yes it is true that i made this thread but it is clear that Christ is the WORD in john 1.1 and it was supported by rev 19.13yes we have seen so many arguments about this verse but no strong evidence that could break the true meaning of the john 1.1.Christ is the WORD OF GOD and no doubt about it.Amen.

Pierre,I deleted your post because this is a private thread for now.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2014,16:55)Mike,Quote The earthly consist of flesh, blood, and bone.  The heavenly do not.  These are your word but Scripture does not say them.God is one of “the heavenly” Kerwin. Does He consist of flesh, blood, and bone?We must use our God-given common sense to understand the scriptures. So the scriptures really DO s…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2014,16:53)Mike,Paul stated Jesus appeared to him also.1 Corinthians 15:8New American Standard Bible (NASB)8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.And Jesus did indeed “appear” to Paul. But was Paul able to SEE Jesus “as he is”? Or did the light from the very presence of Jesus blind Paul?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2014,10:21)Mike,You are not understanding.Quote ” we will be has not yet been made known”A paraphrase is 'we have not yet obtained the body we will have'. John was not saying he did not have knowledge about the resurrected body, though I am sure there are things he did not know about it.You are right…….. I wasn't…[Read more]

Yes Kerwin,Paul knew that the resurrection bodies of those who were to dwell in heaven would be comprised of spirit, and not flesh.That's why he says, “We have borne the image of the earthly, and we shall bear the image of the heavenly.”The earthly consist of flesh, blood, and bone. The heavenly do not. But as far as seeing Jesus, that is not…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,13:09)Some are drawn by God,but it does not mean that we can not sin.And what about all those others, Wakeup?Are you saying God chooses not to draw them, and so they were destined for eternal destruction from their birth? Nothing at all they can do about it?That doesn't seem like the actions of a fair and just God.I…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,11:58)Mike B.The fact here is that you believe that GodDONT have the power to preserve His Word.Hey Wakeup,I'd also like to see you discuss your understanding that a literal utterance from God's mouth became a living breathing being other than God.You and Kerwin both believe “the Word” started off existence as a…[Read more]

But John and the others saw Jesus in his body before he took away our sins. They saw him in his body before he destroyed the works of the devil. And they saw and touched him in his resurrected body – after he took away our sins and conquered death.So if they knew that they would be like Jesus when he returns, and they thought he would return…[Read more]