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    Hi Wakeup,Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.We all know that “darkness” is the opposite of “light”, right?But what is the opposite of “peace”?Here are four of the words the KJV uses as a translation of the Hebrew word “ra”………1. Evil2. Trouble3. Adversity4.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:35)Jesus is also the anointed Messiah.Wakeup, “anointed” and “messiah” mean the same thing.  It's like you are saying that Jesus is the “anointed anointed”, or the “messiah messiah”.Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:35)There is but one mediator between God and man; not many as you believe.I only know of one.  His n…[Read more]

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    journey,I respect the amount of time and work that went into that post, but not one of those pretty colored scriptures you posted refute any of the things I claimed.Emmanuel means “God is with us”.  Jesus being called that name was a sign that Jehovah was indeed still “with us”, or “on our side”.  That name does not equate Jesus with his and our G…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 17 2014,18:38)Of what *substance* will the resurrected be given a form/body.Those chosen to dwell in heaven will have bodies made of spirit and heavenly water, Wakeup. (“You must be born again from above of spirit and water.”)I suppose you believe “spirit” is immaterial, and therefore not a “substance”.I don't believe that.…[Read more]

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    Okay, so we have an entity other than God Himself, complete with its own “form”, who was dwelling with God in the beginning, right?And you are saying that this separate entity did in fact become a person when it was made flesh?Did it become the person Jesus Christ?

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    Now add to Marty's information the fact that the Hebrew word “ra” is not always translated as “evil” in the KJV.The KJV also translates that same exact word as “trouble”, “affliction”, and “adversity” – among others.The KJV translators simply should have used one of those other words in Isaiah 45:7.While the Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 18 2014,11:30)I have already pointed out that appear can mean to bodily appear.And I have already pointed out that “appear” can also have a meaning of “made clear”, or “made known”.I also pointed out that, although “appear” can indeed refer to the physical appearance of something or someone, that meaning doesn't fit the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 18 2014,11:12)Of the two I favor God's word as we are told that in it there is light and that light is the life of men.Interesting, because there is so much light in Jesus that he is metaphorically called “the Light of the World”.And the light he gave was also the life of men.What a strange coincidence, huh?  :)

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 18 2014,08:39)Mike,I pointed out your flaw in one because you believe Jesus is an angel and Scriptures attests angels were not created before everything else.  It also claims Jesus is a man.I pointed out your flaw in two though you refuse to see that it is a flaw.  All that passage claims is that Jesus' glory was with God in t…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 18 2014,08:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2014,03:51)Forget “created”, Kerwin.One of your claims is that there couldn't have been anything other than God before God created a “place” for that other thing to be.Yet your other claim is that something OTHER THAN God was WITH God before God started to created “places” and other…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Feb. 17 2014,20:53)Mike we know that kerwin wants to play and doesnt want to listen to the word of God. Kerwin always deny the truth of the bible. I remember when i told kerwin to make his bible so that he can defend his man made doctrine.Kerwin is a diligent studier of scriptures.  He searches high and low for the truth of the…[Read more]

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    Btw Kerwin,Just the fact that you can't scripturally refute point #1 is enough to make the following words you posted to jammin null and void:“Jammin,What you says proves nothing and if you were not blind you would see that. You have chosen to remain blind and follow the teachings of men rather than the teachings of God.”Let's see how null and…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2014,17:08)Mike,We have discussed John 17:5 before and I simply do not see it as you do.And that's okay for right now, Kerwin.Because I'm wanting you to scripturally REFUTE my points.You can't refute #1, because the Greek could be translated as “and the Word was a god” – and we all know that Jesus IS called a god in…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,18:24)Mike,Quote “Obtain” is NOT a synonym of “manifest”, or “appeared”. So your attempt falls flat on its face.You seem to have missed that I have not claimed it is a synonym. I instead claimed I paraphrased the sentence.And YOU seem to have missed that a “paraphrase” is supposed to be saying the same thing, but in…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,10:54)The only water I can think of in Scripture that you could be writing of is the water Jesus spoke of to the Samaritan woman…………….What about the life-giving water in the river that flows from the throne of God and the throne of the Lamb?Jesus said one drink of it will grant everlasting life, right?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,18:35)Mike B.Basically what you are saying is that all anointed are Messiahs. But there is one that is a greater Messiah.Because you believe that the word anointed meansmessiah.Yes Wakeup, all that is correct.  And the reason I believe it is because it is an undeniable FACT.The Hebrew word is “mashiyach”.  It m…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,19:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 17 2014,05:19)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 15 2014,12:35)No man has heard God's;own voice.So your misunderstanding of one scripture is causing you to stumble, and come up with other misunderstandings of other scriptures.You need to get that checked.Deuteronomy 5 KJV24 we have heard his voice out…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,19:34)Mike B.Keep on misinterpreting the scriptures and you will do well in this world.Hebrews 1:8 **But unto the Son he saith**,***Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever***: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. You *just* honour him that has the key of life and hell.And who died for you.You…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,19:18)THE WORD OF GOD IS THE WORD OF GOD;NOT GOD;BUT HIS WORD.HIS WORD BELONGS TO GOD.  BELONGS, BELONGS, BELONGS.THE ONE WHO SENT IS GREATER THAN THE ONE WHO IS SENT. THE WORD WAS SENT.YES; GOD'S WORD ALWAYS OBEYS HIS OWNER.All these words of yours tell me that the Word isn't actually God Himself, but someone LESSER…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,22:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,23:20)So “JESUS” was one of the forms this “indication of the presence of the mind and will of God” took?And “JESUS” was one of the forms through which “the mind and will of God was revealed”?Is that correct?Mike,The first two points sounds correct.So if we had to connect “the…[Read more]

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