Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,10:44)Quote Now, the Word is once again at God's right hand in heaven.Mike,NOT QUITE CORRECT!So shall my word be, which SHALL GO FORTH FROM MY MOUTH: SO THE WORD LEFT THE FATHER it shall NOT RETURN TO ME VOID,THEREFORE IT SHALL NOT RETURN AS THE WORD OK?Charles,That doesn't even make sense. If God is saying that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,10:30)Does God also SEND His Spirit?What does the word “HIS” mean, Nick? Doesn't the word “HIS” imply that the spirit God SENDS is not Himself, but a possession OF God?Surely God does not send HIMSELF, right?

No Pierre,What you've said is that if God foretells that t8's sons will deviate from the good path, it is not because God can foresee this thing happening, but because God will CAUSE this thing to happen.

Wakeup,Were these things living breathing beings while they were still in God? YES or NO?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2014,12:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2014,02:58)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2014,09:29)Marty………Show ONE SCRIPTURE where is say GOD CREATED all RATIONAL CREATURES with a WILL that was “FREE”…………Leviticus 22:21 NET If a man presents a peace offering sacrifice to the LORD for a special votive…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 01 2014,16:42)I also said:Quote Jesus is appointed to the role that God's word formerly held alone and that he also personifies that word.That also seems to meant the same thing.I have not said the word is not still out there.So who is it that rides the white horse in Rev 19? Jesus? Or God's Word?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 01 2014,16:42)Mike,I am saying just the same thing I have been though I am using different words. Previously, I said:Quote God now speaks his word and does his works through Jesus.That sounds like a conduit of God's word to me.No Kerwin,That sounds like the Word used to be the conduit between God and men, but now Jesus is that…[Read more]

Psalm 5656:4 ….. in God I trust, I am not afraid.  What can mere men do to me? 56:11 ……in God I trust, I am not afraid.  What can mere men do to me?In this psalm, David repeats the same basic phrase twice.  But in verse 4, the Hebrew word translated as “men” is “flesh”.  And in verse 11, the Hebrew word is “man”.As if often the case in scr…[Read more]

Anything OF God cannot also BE God. Anything that can be sent away BY God cannot also BE the God who sends it.

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,10:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2014,03:03)Since the Deity established David, does that make David the Deity?  Is David “God” because “God” is the one who established him?Mike,DAVID WAS ESTABLISHED AS AN ORDINARY CREATURE ON EARTH, NOT AS THE WORD MADE FLESH ON EARTHIt doesn't really matter WHAT was established by…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,10:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2014,01:56)God and his words are one you can not separate God from his words.Gene, So shall my word be, which SHALL GO FORTH FROM MY MOUTH: it shall NOT RETURN TO ME VOID, but it shall do whatsoever I please, and shall prosper in the things for which I sent it.Can you explain that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,09:30)Hi MB, Jesus CHRIST is the word made flesh.I agree 100%, Nick.First, the Word existed with God in the beginning. God created all things through this “Word”. Then the Word became a flesh being and dwelled on earth. Now, the Word is once again at God's right hand in heaven.Agreed?

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,07:51)MIKE,NEXT LESSON!SINCE THE DEITY ESTABLISHED THE WORD, AND IN RESPECT OF MY LAST POST REGARDING THIS MATTER, WE ARE CERTAIN THAT THE WORD WAS GOD, ESTABLISHED BY THE DEITY HIMSELF!God also established King David as the firstborn among kings of the earth. Since the Deity established David, does that make David…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,06:01)PELE BY BECOMING THE GOD OF FOOTBALL BY HIMSELF, HE ALSO BECAME SUPERIOR THAN HE WAS BEFORE………And who exactly was “the god of football”, Charles? Pele? Or Pele's Word?You are trying to compare apples to oranges, and it won't work unless you can say that Pele established SOMEONE ELSE, and then that SOMEONE…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,01:38)THE DEITY ESTABLISHED THE WORD, SO THE WORD IS GOD ESTABLISHED BY GOD HIMSELFCharles,If “God Himself” established “the Word”, then “the Word” cannot possibly BE the “God Himself” who established him.

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 01 2014,15:00)Quote Do we not all have one Father?  Did not one God create us? Mike,THE ABOVE IS NOT A PROOF THAT THE FATHER WAS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE OT.For me it is, Charles. But I don't know why you're dividing the OT from the NT to make your point. The Father is also the only true God in the NT as well.What makes…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 01 2014,12:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2014,10:27)But which creature do YOU think was created first, Charles?Mike,I AM 100% SURE THAT LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST CREATURE, THAT WAS EVER CREATED!So if Lucifer was the first created by God, then wouldn't Lucifer be “the firstborn of every creature”? Wouldn't Lucifer be “the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2014,08:37)…….the word is the Spirit of God that was IN Jesus speaking directly through him.But that calls for a John 1:14 translation of, “the Word came to be IN someone who was already flesh”.And that's simply not the teaching, Gene.Whoever or whatever “the Word” was, we know that it/he BECAME the being of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2014,08:56)Mike……..No WORD can “be” FLESH, because Flesh is PHYSICAL MATTER, and WORDS are “INTELLIGENT UTTERANCES”………..Gene,The King of Abyssinia had a spokesman who bore the title, “The Word of the King”.Was that “Word” flesh?

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 01 2014,00:40)Quote I thought I explained it good enough but I will try again.  The word has many inherent qualities that God but it does not have the inherent quality of being God. Kerwin,READ AND DISCERN THE TRUTH:Hebrews 1:1 God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the…[Read more]