And how did you learn about God and Jesus BEFORE you were baptized? Surely you must have knew something about scripture – or you wouldn't have chosen to be baptized, right? By what means did you learn that FIRST stuff – BEFORE the baptism?

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 19 2014,19:08)Hi MikeNow instead of the “wow factor”,that an archaeologist found the actual site where Jesus was crucified,and under that site, his blood dripped on to the ark of the covenantwhich was hidden underground all that time,and that blood sample which was over 2000 old,tested to be “alive” and proved that the…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 19 2014,18:59)MikeThe “he” is Jesus.What makes you think it could be taken as referring to God?Acts 20:28   Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.We all know the story Mike.God…[Read more]

Nick,I asked you by what means you learned about God BEFORE “the Spirit” was doing all of your thinking for you, and writing every word of every post on HN.Please answer me.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,20:27)Hi MB, Who is the LORD and the LORD OF HOSTS in the oT?A bad translation of “YHWH”. But those terms refer to the Most High God, Jehovah.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,21:29)Hi MB, So would verses 1-6 of Isaiah 6 where the glory of God was seen not relate to Jn12.41 where it says he saw that glory?What makes you think the “glory” part was in Isaiah 6? John also quoted Isaiah 53, right?  And in that chapter, Isaiah was allowed to “see” both the suffering and the subsequent…[Read more]

I agree for the most part, Nick. Of course we who speak English have no choice but to add indefinite articles, and sometimes alter the placement of the Hebrew and Greek words so that they can be understood in English.There are many times where the addition doesn't hurt anything. For example, in 1 Cor 15:27, the Greek words say, “this does not…[Read more]

Even after Harry was graced with the spirit of Christ, he still was animated by the same spirit God gave him from birth……. the one that goes back to God when he dies.So Harry doesn't actually BECOME the spirit of Christ, or vice-versa.  Harry remains Harry until the day he dies.  At the resurrection, it is the soul/essence of Harry that will b…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,09:15)Mike,v 39 is his first example of what he means and frankly he is talking about creature whose bodies are all composed of flesh but who have different physical forms.  From there he talks about the difference in kinds of glory between celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies and then in v 41 about the different…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,09:48)Mike,Quote Again, I presume that the “only begotten SON” would be a PERSONThat presumption does not take into account the Jewish culture of the First Century.  Well, If you have REASON to believe that John's phrase “only begotten Son of God” DOESN'T actually refer to the PERSON Jesus Christ, then let's hear…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,09:38)Mike,Quote The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.This seems to support my understanding that the one who dwelt among them was a PERSON….. but maybe I'm just reading that into it.I agree it is talking about a person as it is speaking of a time after the word was made flesh.Again, it sounds to me like you…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,09:31)Mike,Quote It is not only the “became flesh” part, Kerwin.  It is the rest of John 1, which tells us MANY things about this “Word” – things that are said elsewhere about JESUS in many other scriptures.They are all said about Jesus after the word was made flesh.Okay. And what does that tell you? That the Word…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,21:25)Hi MB, The Spirit.So then NOT Jesus Christ?  NOT Moses?  NOT David and Solomon?  NOT the angels?  NOT God Himself, who often used angels and prophets to deliver His messages instead of the His Spirit?Hmmmm………… How did the disciples BEGIN learning about Jesus?  How did the Gentiles BEGIN to learn abou…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 19 2014,13:08)Hi Wakeup:Where is the scripture that states that God's Son was a spirit prior to becoming a physical being and that he as now been transformed back to this state and that we also will be transformed into this state?I want scriptures for these statements.  Otherwise, you will never convince me through your…[Read more]

Marty,I don't know what to think.  You started off with crazy talk, but then seemed to have a genuine understanding by the end of your post.  Quote (942767 @ Mar. 19 2014,12:45)If you put a container of water on a horse, does just the container ride the horse or does the water that is in the container also ride the horse?Hmmmm……. let's try p…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 19 2014,17:28)Mikefore·see  (fôr-sē′, fōr-)To see or know beforehandAgreed……….

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 19 2014,17:53)KerwinActs 20:28   Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.Which bit is flawed?journey,Acts 20:28  NRSV ©…….to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with [Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 19 2014,14:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2014,12:10)And unless the caterpillar in your example can be WITH the very butterfly he will one day become, your analogy doesn't work.Mike,WHO SAID THAT THE CATERPILLAR, WITHIN HIM IN HIS BOSOM, IN HIS ENTIRE EXISTENCE HASN'T GOT ALL HIS GENUINE ELEMENTS, WHICH EVENTUALLY THROUGH THEM…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 19 2014,12:28)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)So in your mind, “the Father God” was WITH “the Father God” in the beginning? Mike,YOU SAID THE FATHER!I MEANT GODAND GOD IS NOT JUST THE FATHER! FOR ALL OF US WHO BELIEVE IN A TRIUNE GOD!So then, in your triune Godhead understanding, John 1:1 tells us that the Word was with the Father, Son,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,08:54)Verses 6-7 sets up the ideas of having the form of God and taking on the form of a servant. Form is clearly used in the same sense in both instances.That's a good point, Kerwin.Both of the words “morphe” must use the same definition, since Paul was contrasting the fact that Jesus WAS in the morphe of God, but…[Read more]