Gene:  Yea Nick, i think Mike would have a hard time saying he is wrong even with the tons of proofs staring him in the face. I don’t think he has convienced one person here of a Flat Earth yet, that i know of.

We can’t say he didn’t try, i still love him though.

I’m just leading you to the water, Gene.  And I have just only begun to fight! …[Read more]

Nick:  Hi Gene,

If you have sold out to deception and become a zealous missionary for falsehood

it is a long and painful return journey.

Exactly Nick!  I already said the same thing in a couple of posts here.  But don’t stress, D4T and I are here to help you along your journey away from the deception and the zealous way you’ve been ind…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike… tell us have you changed your mind yet after the tons of proof given you…

I’m still waiting on the first piece of proof, Gene.  I’m working long hours now, so please don’t take my absence for a couple days as defeat.

T8:  Mike, my two videos higher up this page explain this clearly.

Use discernment, T8.  Crying “GRAVITY!” doesn’t solve the problem in the least, and yet it is the only thing you guys have to answer it.  What is gravity?  What observational test has ever been done to confirm it’s existence?  How is it so selective that it can hold trillions of cu…[Read more]

Nick:  Hi Dig4,

The atmosphere is rotating with the earth??

Where do the winds of earth come from?

Why is the westerly predominant?

Globers often don’t even know the basics of what the heliocentric model actually says.  Yes Nick, the heliocentric model says the atmosphere is stuck to the earth as if with Velcro, and moves seamlessly with it as…[Read more]

D4T:  So the atmosphere is rotating with the earth.. ?

If the globers start at 2:30, and watch til 10:15, they’ll have a much better idea about the nonsensical idea they’re fighting to protect.

Two key points from the video…

1.  The second law of thermodynamics states that gas pressure will move from high to l…

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T8:  This video touches on some of the points I raised earlier about distances in the Southern Hemisphere.

IMO, it also debunks a number of Flat Earth claims that I have seen in some videos.

I watched the first 10 minutes when you posted it Sunday.  All of what I saw is easily debunked.  But most of these flat earth debunk videos and arti…[Read more]

Ed: With the creation of the sun and rotation of the earth you can have THE FIRST day

Sure, but the scripture clearly says God made the sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day.

D4T:  I disagree that “it could be easily argued the sun was created on day one”. It cannot given the wording of Scripture. It clearly says that the sun was made on day 4.

That’s also how I see it.  IMO, it is impossible that all this wording…

1. “Let there be lights in the firmament…”
2. And it was so.
3. God made two great lights…
4. <…

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Kathi: Isn’t it reasonable to say that the order of creation and created beings would be-first create the dwelling next create those who are meant to dwell there. The earth was prepared before the animals and Adam and Eve were there. The heavens were made on day two. The angels would be created after the heavens were created in which they dw…

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Kathi:  Mike,

What day were the third heavens made? Do you know?

Day one, per Gen 1:1.

D4T:  T8, I think I’ll save my million dollars. But since you’re close why don’t you go for it?

I will say that your point is well taken and I don’t have an answer as of yet. Kudos for putting some real thought into this!

There are a lot of things we simply don’t know. But I will point out that Mercator made his famous map (the one on the wall…[Read more]

Andrew:  Mike,

I’ve read on the net that the ISS can be seen with a telescope and the astronaut with Ham in the vid I do believe to be sincere.

There are definitely objects floating around above us, but they are carried by planes, gliders and balloons.  I just slapped this video together for you.  It’s 4 and a half minut…[Read more]

Ed:  Hi Mike,

You are dismissing that God may be reiterating what Happened on Day 1, The sun and earth’s rotation

Hey Ed, what possible reason would I have to consider it a reiteration?  Do you suppose anyone in Moses’, King David’s, or Jesus’ day would have read Genesis and concluded that God really made the sun on day one instead of day four…[Read more]

Let me know when the debate thread is up and running.

T8:  If the sun is part of the heavens, then day 1.And if the sun appeared on day 4…

It’s not, so day 4.  And we’re not told it “appeared” on day 4, but that God “made it” on day 4 and “placed it in the firmament” on day 4.

And thanks for reminding me… I almost forgot about your Rome analogy.  The fourth beast is different from the rest in…[Read more]

T8:  He wasn’t confused because if the earth goes around the sun, this also means the sun is going round the earth from our vantage point.

Then that is in fact your claim… that King David was in error because he didn’t have a space ship?  So where’s the answer to the last question?  (I knew I should have put the Yes/No/I Don’t Know at the end o…[Read more]

T8:  Where is your photo or video of the Flat Earth…

You took it, remember?  Game, set, match right there.  Don’t worry, there’s plenty more evidence to come.

David: Hey mike,

don want to throw your conversation off.  Haven’t thought about any of his at all, but have a couple questions which perhaps you already addressed.

What is the purpose of this deception—with NASA and scientists and others deceiving others into thinking the earth is spherical?

And, what do we think of the other planets, and star…

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Mike:  …only God knows the true heart of a person.

Nick:  Are you really offering yourself as…fit to judge the hearts of others?