T8:  The brightly lit portion of the moon is illuminated directly by the sun. The rest of the moon is still visible because of earthshine or sunshine reflecting off Earth.

Okay, that’s the “parroting what other people have told you” answer.  Have you looked into this earthshine claim?  I have.  Let me give you the short version…

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D4T:  I did watch the video with the hippie discussing the FE about a week or two ago. I too was impressed that he had most of the facts correct. This made me wonder if he isn’t a closet FE guy. I have watched several of his videos in the past and for the most part they are funny. But he nailed most of the facts in the FE video.

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SSDD, T8.  This has been your MO since I started the thread…

Mike or D4T:  What do you think of this ONE SINGLE photo that anyone on earth can test, and that undeniably shows the earth can’t be the ball they’ve told us it is?

T8:  I don’t have the time or the interest to look into that ONE SINGLE photo, but here’s a YouTube video mo…[Read more]

The last of my moon observation videos… for now.  It’s 3 minutes…

Hey D, I did some preliminary comparisons between my visible spectrum (VS) P1000 and my IR P900.  I’ll be making a quick YouTube video… maybe today.  I also have one more crescent moon position vid to make.  Man, the killer one was going to be Sunday morning… the last sliver of light on the moon.  I was up at 4 am and in place when a huge sto…[Read more]

I did read your post and give you a fair hearing.  You offered a list of reasons for why that scripture doesn’t necessarily have to mean what it clearly and explicitly says.  I’m asking you why it CAN’T mean what it clearly and explicitly says?  What is your answer?

Another follow-up.  It’s 2 and a half minutes again…

Btw, I got my IR-converted P900 back Friday.  I’ve been playing around with it, and will do a short video showing the difference between IR and visible spectrum at various distances.  Hopefully I’ll get that uploaded tomorrow.  And two more short moon videos as well.

Here’s one of many shorter follow-ups to come.  It’s 2 and a half minutes…

Thanks, D. 😁  It started off as a comprehensive list of moon-related problems with the helical model, but it was 20 minutes long before I even got to daytime full moons.  And I still had nighttime crescents, selenelions, and a closer look at top down eclipses to go after that!
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My newest video is about the moon problem I was trying to show T8 earlier.  It’s 10 minutes…

D4T:  Mike, some here have made it clear that they do NOT believe the Scripture but rather scientism.

Sadly, yes.  I’m hoping T8 will be honest enough to just come out and say he doesn’t believe that scripture because he believes the men of scientism over scripture.

T8:  It simply says that from Joshua’s perspective that the sun stood still.

Actually the writer states as a matter of fact:  “The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to go in for about a whole day.”

You’ve made it clear that you do not believe that scripture as it is clearly written.  D4T and I want to know WHY. Who told you thi…[Read more]

1 Thessalonians 5:21

Test all things; hold fast that which is good.

You guys can’t “be bothered” to even test this 100% Biblical theory.  And your refusal to even take a moment to ponder the evidence we’ve shown is why I have no more time for you.  You ask for a scripture?  Okay, one scripture…

Joshua 10:12-14
At that time Joshua spoke to Ya…

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T8:  I will look at these when I have time.

Not really much to look at.  Two diagrams and one photo… but whatever.  I believe I’ve wasted enough time on you anyway.  At some point, it becomes a matter of casting pearls before swine, right?  I and D4T tried our best to take you down the scriptural path (which, btw, explains the seven lights you t…[Read more]

Btw, the next time you try to show an artist’s illustration of the beauty of the heliocentric model, use one that conveys the impossible elliptical orbits of today’s heliocentric model… not the perfect circles of Copernicus’ original model.  The perfect circles didn’t match observation, and so they had to adjust the model.  In case you didn’t k…[Read more]

I await your response to the 3rd, 4th, and 6th post on the previous page.  How can we see a full moon in the daytime according to the heliocentric model?

I’m putting the finishing touches on a video discussing that matter.  I’ll post it here when I upload it to YouTube.

Well said, D!  I would also point out that T8 is going out of his way to point out that people laugh at us.  He seems to be using “lol” quite frequently.  I wonder if he’s ever considered that his hero scientists laugh at him the same way for his belief in a Creator.  Of course, them laughing at him for his belief in God doesn’t affect him in any…[Read more]

T8:  Love it Mike. I have seen the ISS and your response is no you haven’t.
I have traveled from NZ to Perth and can testify that the distance is but a fraction of what a Flat Earth map says. And your response is again, “No you can’t”.

Thank you for demonstrating clearly that evidence you disagree with is not tested, but only has your biased op…

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Hey D, glad to see you’re still among the living in the midst of the hurricane.  I believe Kathi is also from that general area.  I pray you guys and your families stay safe and sound.

T8:  The facts are this. The globe earth has a ton of evidence.

No it doesn’t.

T8:  I live in the Southern Hemisphere and can confirm that the distance from Wellington to Perth for example does not match what a Flat Earth demands.

No you can’t.

T8:  But what I have learned about the nature of man is he sticks to his beliefs even when proven wron…

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