Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 22 2011,18:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,10:36)I can't believe it.  Not one single coment on my post about “Son of Man/Son of God”?    Of course, what CAN you say?mikeHi Mike,Diversions, distractions, and distortions, what did you expect?They attempt to switch the “Focus” to one of equality,which is “NOT” THE TOPIC of th…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 22 2011,16:04)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,16:58)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 23 2011,03:16)Thank you Mike! You said that “Jesus is CLEARLY called God” and you're going to destroy the trinity doctrine?Ye are theos/elohim, ye are all sons of the Most High.That destroys the Trinity doctrine because they are not God.You…[Read more]

Ed,  Do you really feel good about chasing off one of the most enlightened and loved members here?  Wasn't it you who preferred that JA not get kicked off despite the hateful things he posted to MANY of us?Ed, the fact is that Kathi called you on doing something deceitful, whether or not your intention was to be deceitful. You have done the s…[Read more]

I can't believe it.  Not one single coment on my post about “Son of Man/Son of God”?    Of course, what CAN you say?Cain could be called “son of adam” and actually BE “adam”, because he was mankind.  But because Cain was the SON OF Adam, the being, he could not possibly BE Adam, the being.Jesus is not the son of some “species of Godkind”.  He is t…[Read more]

Bump for Keith:Hi Keith,1.  Knowing that Jesus is NOT everything the BEING OF GOD is, can Jesus possibly BE the BEING OF GOD that he is the Son of?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 18 2011 @ 03:19) Yes Jesus is the Son of the Father Keith, I just counted 41 scriptures that call Jesus the “Son of God”.  NOT the “Son of the Father”, but the “Son of G…[Read more]

Bump for Keith:Hi Keith,Matthew 20:20-21, 2320 Then the mother of Zebedee’s sons came to Jesus with her sons and, kneeling down, asked a favor of him.   21 “What is it you want?” he asked.   She said, “Grant that one of these two sons of mine may sit at your right and the other at your left in your kingdom.” 23 Jesus said to them, “You will i…[Read more]

Bump for Jack and Keith:Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 20 2011,07:16)Keith said to Mike:Quote This means the Father will not boot Jesus out of his throne nor revolk his “Sovereignty” to rule with the Father.Keith,You are absolutely correct. The Father cannot justly revoke Christ's sovereignty for two reasons:1. The throne was Christ's by…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 20 2011,21:29)the petulant genocidal monster described in scripture.May God forgive you, Stu.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2011,20:14)Mikeif our soul is not from spirit (i mean part of Christ )then so what is the IMAGE  and  LIKENESS in Gen;1;26Hi Pierre,I don't exactly know what is meant by “in our image”.  Does He mean with a heart made to feel love intensely?  A brain that can do complex tasks?  A love for music?  An appreciation for b…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 21 2011,06:17)MikeThe apostle John was given a vision of the future, including the “souls” under the alter.They represent the martyrs that would die for Jesus; beheaded simply means, they gave their life for Jesus, they did not deny him.They hadn't even all died yet. Who was it that would kill them?Why were they told to…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 21 2011,00:34)Mik But Eze, 18:4 does say the Soul that sinneth it shall die. You say it di=doesn't. that is not according to that Scripture.Hi Irene,Did you read all of Ez 18? God had started off saying he will punish sons of a sinner to the 4th generation, but bless the offspring of a righteous one for thousands of…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 21 2011,19:31)There is no trinity. When you take all the Scriptures against the trinity, you come up with one, yet much more against it.Hi Irene,I've just started working on something I think will be big and blow a lot of people away.It might take me a year to finish it, but I've started. I'm going to take the trinity doctrine…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Feb. 21 2011,04:26)The new way to God as revealed by Jesus, saves the believer from the destruction of believing they are unclean and unworthy.9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the o…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 21 2011,10:31)Mike said:Quote I want you to RETAIN that claim that YOU YOURSELF made, and apply that same reasoning to the fact that God is always called a “HE” or a “HIM”, and NEVER a “THEY” or a “THEM”.God is both called “Us” and “Him” in Genesis 1:26. KJJack,Is it even a remote possibility that God was talking to…[Read more]

t8,The two articles do not remove the very clear “said to HIM”.  It is irrefutable that Thomas said what he said to HIM – that HIM being Jesus Christ.To Jack and Keith, see my thread on Titus 2:13.  We've discussed it many times.  Even if you INSIST it MUST be calling Jesus “theos”, so what?  He is clearly called “theos” in 1:1, 1:18, and 20:…[Read more]

Hi All,Let's get to the very simple bottom of this.  First of all, Ed addressed me instead of WJ a couple of posts back.    (Probably because we were pm'ing at the time.)Keith and Jack, let's address your claims:Son of man = manSon of God = GodLike begets likeLet's put these to the test and iron this out.1.  Son of man = man:  Man is a being made…[Read more]

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2011,20:24)my kids also call me father and my son is 46 years old.I believe if you call your father by is name it make you is equaland no longer his son, what you think??Funny, I'm also 46.    I think it is a sign of respect to call them “mother” and “father” instead of “Bob” and “Barb”.I still also address my aunts a…[Read more]

Hi Kar,Quote Scriptures says there's a type of body in heaven,But i think it's talking about Christ after he is risen.This is from JA's poem.  Why would Christ, who is also a spirit like the angels, be the ONLY thing in heaven with a body?  If you can't come up with a different scenario of 1 Cor 15 than the understanding that I posted, then why a…[Read more]