Like I said, jester, just address the points.I've numbered two of them for easy reference, and bolded the third so you'd be sure to see it.Now…………..will you actually address the very words I wrote, (as Kerwin is doing about angels being ministering spirits), or will you show everyone here that you CAN'T address those points by continuing…[Read more]

Oh yeah, now I remember.  It is quite interesting how the Aztec calendar ends like that.  My brother also told me that the planets will all be aligned with each other on that same day in 2012 – something that is said to only happen every 20,000 years (if I'm correctly remembering what he said).  Weird, to say the least.I believe Jesus when he sa…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,06:23)EDJ and t8 are both correct.And it is the same as I do: how many have demand that I quote chapter and verse for them when expressing a view on a scriptural matter: why, because they do not know the Scriptures enough to track it's source.Did not even Jesus say, 'It is written…'? Did he quote chapter and verse -…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Luke was written in Greek, not Hebrew.  And the word Luke and Jesus both used was “pneuma”, which means “spirit”. (Luke 24:37, 39)

Hi Pierre,That doesn't just go for Mary, the cross, and the Saints, etc, but for Jesus himself.  God said that no one has seen His form, so don't worship ANYTHING with a form, whether it be celestial bodies or the form of a human.Jesus most definitely had a form, right?Add that to the fact we are not to worship the creation, but ONLY the Creator…[Read more]

Reading this thread makes me wonder what happened to David B. Fun and Francis.They were both last heard from in debates with me. If this was a murder case, I'd be the prime suspect!

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,10:18)Mike Boll,Quote So when Paul says angels ARE ministering spirits, YOU have to insert your own words to make Paul say, “Angels HAVE spirits inside of them”.That is not a proof scripture since human beings can be ministering spirits.Here is an example of such a use the word “spirit” from a news article.Quote “She…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,09:53)You can also find places where angels are referred to as Jehovah. It appears to be a manner of speech. It can also explain why Jesus called Peter Satan when the devil tricked that apostle into representing him.Yes, many times the vice regent OF Jehovah was called "Jehovah" or "God".But when Jesus called Peter…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,09:53)Idols are images of the god they represent just like Jesus and the angels of God are.Sometimes they are.  Other times, the idol itself IS the god.  The man imagines it, designs it, and fashions it out of wood, stone, and/or metal………….then worships it.This is true in the case of the golden calf.  The Is…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 19 2011,07:25)It seem that some wish to separate out or include within or fram or fence around the term “God” as though God is a person.God IS a person, Tim.  He has feelings of love, sorrow, regret, joy, anger, jealously, etc.  We are persons who are created in the image of the person Jehovah.Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 19 2…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,09:33)Gene,Mike spent AGES thinking that one up… Any sane person would not think what Mike is saying – in fact not one single other person ever did (oops – pedantic Mike will say, 'Not one Single' could mean 'but MANY'… careful how you write to him – he is a programmed Greek robot!!)Are you stumped, Istari? Answer…[Read more]

Besides Gene,You DO believe that angels have bodies, right?  But like with many other scriptures, you have to alter God's written word to fit what YOU believe, instead of fitting what YOU believe around the scriptures as they are written.So when Paul says angels ARE ministering spirits, YOU have to insert your own words to make Paul say, “Angels…[Read more]

Come on Gene.  Follow it through……….I know you can do it if you apply yourself.The disciples saw Jesus IN A BODY, right?  Yet they STILL thought he was a spirit, right?  And Jesus didn't tell them, “Look morons, spirits don't even HAVE bodies, so how in the world could I be a SPIRIT!”, did he?Instead, he told them, NOT THAT SPIRITS DON'T HA…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,08:48)His glory was a predestined Glory and he never had it until he was born died and resurrected to that gloryGene says:  Jesus never HAD his glory until he was resurrected to that glory.Jesus says:  “And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.” H…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,08:06)Mike…………So Do you believe Jesus was from the root of Jesse or not?,Absolutely, for he is ALSO called “the Branch” of David.  And a branch comes from the root, right?  So according to the flesh (as it is often worded in scripture), Jesus is “from” the root of Jesse, as he is also the branch.Now t…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,03:19)Mike, you are saying (Are you saying) that “Flesh and Bone” is not a BODY?Are you saying Jesus DID NOT SAY (Mean) “See, I am not a Spirit, for a Spirit does not have a BODY like you see I have“?Mike, are you sane?It's funny that I asked a simple question about cars, then Pierre even emphasized that question by…[Read more]

Hi Gene,What about 0.00000%?”Your throne, God, is forever………….””God is your throne forever…………..”(Hebrews 1:8/Psalm 45:6)

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2011,18:17)we see on December 21 2012 about those sect of money thirst,What's that? I don't follow the news of the world too much.

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2011,18:17)it make me think about those guys who went after Paul to kill him and declared they would not eat or drink until they succeeded ,I always wonder if they still looking or if they still alive

Hey Istari,If Jesus said a car doesn't have flesh and bone, would you then conclude that a car doesn't have a body at all?