Still can't argue the absolute logic of Tertullian's statement, huh?   Is there a rule that we must agree with EVERYTHING Albert Einstein ever said in order to recognize the brilliance in ONE THING he said?I quote MANY extremely logical and scriptural things from NETNotes also………which was written by 25 Trinitarians.  Just beca…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2011,19:44)3)spirits = are heavenly being and some are called angels.Hi Pierre,A demon is nothing more than an angel who chose NOT to follow God. Like angels, demons ARE spirits, which means “a spirit being”.Kar, I agree with Pierre that love is not created, but part of many things that are on loan to us through the…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 20 2011,19:20)Maybe you didn't realize what I said Mike.I stated that “Jesus name actually means salvation.Yes you did.  And I corrected you on your false information, didn't I?  Do you remember what “Jesus” REALLY means?  It means “JEHOVAH is salvation”.  And JEHOVAH really IS salvation.  For GOD so loved the worl…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 20 2011,14:06)Mike does a lot of what DBF says about Bod : Ignoring posts, demanding that people answer him but ignoring the response when they do (He demands that the answer be EXACTLY what he wantsThere are many who bear false witness on this site, BD. I'll translate Istari's rant for you:”I never actually answer a direct…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2011,01:28)Quote (  mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,03:39)   Reading this thread makes me wonder what happened to David B. Fun and Francis.They were both last heard from in debates with me.  If this was a murder case, I'd be the prime suspect!   Hi Mike,Maybe you should get a tile for running them off?Ed J[Read more]

Wow, what a busy thread today!  Pierre:  Good line of reasoning and great responses in your discussion with Ed.  Keep it up, brother.  Ed:  Istari and Kar used to claim what you did – that ONLY Jesus has a body in heaven.  I'll ask you what I asked them:  Does it seem logical to you that the person God placed as RULER over heaven and earth would…[Read more]

John 1:14 – The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.Non-preexister:  This really means, “The Word CAME TO BE IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH”.My doctine does not require me to add words and thereby change the entire meaning of a scripture.

You left out some of my words Ed.  They are the important ones:………….but can't you see that YOU are the one starting the war all over again?Let sleeping dogs lie, Ed.If you don't want there to BE trouble, then don't START trouble.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,15:19)Was King David a root of Jesse also> YES, Well, there's half of the problem, Gene.  The correct answer is NO!  David was a BRANCH of his father Jesse, not a ROOT of him.    So much for MY ignorance of simple logic.  Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,15:19)Mike as far as the word (IN) in John 1:14 goes…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2011,20:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,13:49)Hi Ed,Istari and I are having an A and B conversation………..so C your way out of it, okay?  Hi Mike,Would that include Pierre too?God blessEd Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHe's my nature guide, Ed. I'm Marlin Perkins, and he's Jim!

Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2011,19:33)Quote (Rena @ June 20 2011,09:41)Mike, you said…At first I was flabbergasted by the way Istari posted to others. I complained to no avail. And I didn't see you or Kar or Gene or Ed making one single comment about his verbal abuse to me or Pierre or Irene or Dennison or Kathi or anyone else.Well, I didn't see YOU…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2011,20:04)Mike and Istari: Let's try to keep personal cr*p out of discussing doctrinal issues; OK?Hi Ed,Istari and I are having an A and B conversation………..so C your way out of it, okay?  I've already explained to Kerwin that I'm on a nature trek.  To gain the trust of the gorilla, I must imitate the gorilla and b…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 19 2011,20:26)His only come back to God being invisible with no man being able to see him, coupled with a very visible Jesus on Earth or in Heaven, was to promote the idea that God is invisible except when he is visible. Too funny, man!

Quote (terraricca @ June 19 2011,20:17)one example i have is;when i said ;that anything that is created has a form of body if not it does not exist ,do you see any one who fight back to me and all of us who believe and say that spirits being have a form of body,it seems they do not like question what would make them look as liars,in that way they…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 19 2011,20:13)Hi Mike.It is normal to say things like that if English is your second language and you are still learning how English grammar works.Otherwise there is no other legitimate excuse I can think of.Hmmmm…………..I'll have to consider that possibility with Keith. I sometimes get the feeling that English IS his…[Read more]

John 6:38 – For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.Non-preexister:  Jesus meant that the prophecy of him came down from heaven.But the Jews understood him to be saying HE came down from heaven, right?John 6:42 – They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How c…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,15:43)Mike ………..Jesus had that glory alright but he never received it until He was raised from the dead This is mish-mashed, illogical, nonsensical English, Gene.How can any sensible person say “He HAD that glory but he didn't really have until later”?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,15:43)The glory…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,16:06)And as for Terraricca, he says nothing of any worth.Just post Scriptures with no meaning……….Well, I imagine that what Pierre posts would look “worthless” to someone who considers scriptures to have “no meaning”.

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,16:11)What did you mean by 'Jesus' body was transformed just before he entered heaven'?I think that since I've addressed that point DIRECTLY and NUMEROUS times now, (even Kerwin added to what I was saying to help your small mind grasp it), it's YOUR turn to answer a question or two, Sunshine!1.  Was Jesus a “spiritual…[Read more]

Quote (Rena @ June 19 2011,16:41)So – maybe you should take a look at yourself before you go passing judgment on others and wonder why they don't 'go to your rescue.Hi Kar,I have no problem whatsoever that you don't “come to my rescue”…………………….UNTIL you start in on me when I retaliate. Only THEN does it make me wonder how you can…[Read more]