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[mikeangel]

The beast has 7 horns-7rulers

It is only god who knows exactly who they are, and the main one to have the power of all of them in the end. IMHO

My guess, Nero, for obvious reasons. Hitler, for obvious reasons. Stalin, for taking god out of socialism and murdering millions of people. Napoleon, who instituted the will of man and the freedom to do what you want over what God wants. The Pope, who allows himself to be called “the holy father” and the idea of human infalliabity, and yes, the US presidency, which, in its inception, embraced all the ideals of Napoleon and masonry, where the idea for the Constitution came from, which guarantees men the right to reject God and the government comes first. (in the constitution, God is mentioned only once, in the date). And last but not least, Elvis, which changed the whole world with his music, unlocking the sexual revolution that brought such sin and unfaitfulness and broken lives, that we now face the most evil reality ever, the great tribulation I live through every day. Come Lord Jesus. Save us from ourselves and have mercy on me, a sinner. Peace

[mikeangel]

Ed your arrogance and self glorification speak for themselves. Cocaine was 25 years ago and only lasted a little while until God woke me up. I was being honest when I stated that. You take care man. Peace

[mikeangel]

Hold firmly to the truth, encourage by sound doctrine, & refute those who oppose it.

I just wanted to emphasize that.

[mikeangel]

Hi Mark,

How about alcohol? Have you quit using alcohol?-Ed

 

I poured out my heart in this testimonial, and this is what you wrote to me, right off the bat. You haven’t changed in five years Ed, and you proved that yourself.  Your a legend in your own judgmental mind . I yelled that day after you threw all you judgements at me, I couldn’t believe it and was let down.

Since you think evil was separated from Jesus from the cross, then have you asked him if he quit making , using and serving alcohol also?

 

[mikeangel]

All those bibles say hate. Ed says Love less. Ed is God’s self proclaimed witness so I must believe him, right? He even knows more than King James. Woah.

[mikeangel]

I can guarantee you that you told me i was probably hung over, which I wasn’t. And that Pigs don’t sweat and gave me a lecture on how bad they are to eat.

I would have fed you bean sprouts if you asked for them. You are not a kind person. And very judgmental. And like the pharisees portend to be God’s chosen.

You need salve for your eyes imbho (in my biblical humble opinion). Before it’s too late. And it looks like thats not a long way off……………………….

[mikeangel]

Mr. Ed,

I answered your question honestly and completely. I said I do believe there are codes and patterns in the Bible, and much more. So the answer is yes.

But it wasn’t put n the way you wanted it, so you ignored it.

You seem quite inflated with your knowledge. And “proof”.  I told you before, I’ll tell you again. It’s not necessary for closeness to God.

Let me ask a few questions. Do you show mercy to anyone regardless of what you think of them on the outside?

I’ll answer that for you based on your actions. NO. I was coming up by you by chance, and arranged to meet you to pray together.

I let you know that the day before I was barbecuing ribs and having a good time with my friends, and having a beer.

This is what you said on the phone when I called to meet that next day, “you’ve been drinking and problibly will be hung over tomorrow”

And you wouldn’t want ribs and went on on how Pigs don’t sweat and are bad to eat.

And we wouldn’t meet.

I’ll share something personal with you, I was so dissapointed that I cried when I got off the phone.

My friend asked me what was wrong and I told him, and he said, “well, it sounds like your better off for not meeting him, lets go to Eureka”

#1. He was right.   #2 I had a great day that day, we went to church.

Whatever you think you know or can prove from scripture Ed, from personal experience, you are missing the point.

Let me emphasize, WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU KNOW OR CAN PROVE FROM SCRIPTURE ED, FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH YOU, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT IMHO.

Peace man.

[mikeangel]

Jesus is the word made flesh.

IMHO that flesh contributed everything.

Peace Nick

[mikeangel]

Ed. I know you are going to take this as a spin, but whatever.

All those Bibles say hate. The one i read my whole life said hate. The meaning is there. You missed the whole point of what that sentence said.

It was SYMBOLIC Ed. Not literal. Just like you are saying. You do not literally hate everybody in your life

But compared to God your feelings are hate, it shows how much you are supposed to be joined to God compared to everything else.

You miss the point of what i was saying to elevate yourself over all of those Bible authors.

The point I get is that you know how to strain out the gnat and swallow the Camel. There is a code in there somewhere. I just don’t have time to figure it out.

Peace Ed

[mikeangel]

But let me say, I believe in duel meaning here, like expressed above.

In the beginning of Ezekiel, when he witnessed the glory of God, He was told to eat the scroll.

He was told to fill his belly with it and then to go speak to the Israelites.

I interpret that as reading of God’s scripture, understanding it,and prophesying it.

when you eat something it becomes part of you, and gives you nutrition to live.

So I believe that is communion too.

But I also think that the Lord initiated communion by command. Its in the bible. and I do not believe he will fault the ones who participate in it.

To participate in it you have to be baptized, which means you believe in Jesus, and are obeying his words,  and that is very good 🙂

[mikeangel]

1 Corinthians 11:26 ESV / 677 helpful votes

For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27 ESV / 576 helpful votes

And when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.

 

Who invented it?

[mikeangel]

Nick

The command, “do this in memory of me”

How do you define that? Do what?

And in Paul’s letters, the table of the Lord. what is that?

Peace

[mikeangel]

That is the obsession of codes and patterns.  The bible as a whole, and especially the Gospels, reading and understanding it, does get you closer to God.

[mikeangel]

I’m saying that there are many things there, known and unknown, codes, numbers, prophecy, that are Gods work.

Things you know and things you do not know.

But they are a distraction to the main responsibilities,  of being a child of God.

Obsession, not Revelation

So yes, I believe there are things encoded in the Bible.

But the things you discover and know, will not even scratch the surface  of closeness to God and please God, and knowledge of him

Compared to mercy, charity, and compassion to others, and worship of God. Both personal and public.

Peace Ed

[mikeangel]

Ed I am being honest with you. You are imo obsessed with this. And it seems stronger than you are.

The same thing happened to me, and is still in the back of my mind.

For a long time I was and still am convinced with Elvis being the anti christ.

And i was the one who God chose to reveal it to.

The proof is so painfully easy to understand. Him being called “The King”. Him being into all of the false religions while claiming to be christian. His affairs and sin.

His being into huge amounts of drug taking while calling all the hippies dope heads and wanting to arrest them. The lyrics of Rock and Roll songs that glorify Satan.

And how it changed the entire world. God haters are heros. “you’ll never make a saint of me”, “I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun”, “God is dead”. And on and on and on. Hotel California is about Hell.

AND God showed me proof in the Book of Wisdom in the 14th chapter, which describes what happened to him and how he was Idolized by the whole world,

and they all made STATUES  of him and called him the KING.  EVEN A GOLD ONE NEXT TO JERUSALEM, AND A BRONZE ONE IN TEL AVIV!!!!!!!!!!

And the place God chose me to live, smack dab next to Memphis Tn. Go figure. My uncles went to school with Elvis. The world made him what he was.

Oh I am getting carried away again.

Thats all fact, but I can’t let all that get in the way of what God wants, Mercy and love to others, not Judgements and obsession.

The devil uses scripture to obsess some into missing the big picture.

 

[mikeangel]

We did not come from nothing. That proves God exist. Only the ignorant say that God does not exist. He is proven in creation.

We are, so God is. He chose me so thats easy to understand.

And I know him. He taught me, himself, about him.

And he sent his son to die for me to save me. Thats how much he loves me.

I don’t need to decipher codes or numbers to believe that .

I enjoy showing mercy to others, and love. IMHO much more meaningful to God. And I do that out of love for him and my neighbor.

THAT is straight with no spins.

Peace and love to you Ed.

[mikeangel]

I mean a few of them try to interpret it and say “Love more” or a few things, but gosh, the KJV, the NIV, even the NET say hate. And its what I have read my whole life.

[mikeangel]

Ok Ed, I looked it up,

KJ21

“If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

ASV

If any man cometh unto me, and hateth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

AMP

“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life [in the sense of indifference to or relative disregard for them in comparison with his attitude toward God]—he cannot be My disciple.

AMPC

If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his [own] father and mother [in the sense of indifference to or relative disregard for them in comparison with his attitude toward God] and [likewise] his wife and children and brothers and sisters—[yes] and even his own life also—he cannot be My disciple.

BRG

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

CEB

“Whoever comes to me and doesn’t hate father and mother, spouse and children, and brothers and sisters—yes, even one’s own life—cannot be my disciple.

CJB

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father, his mother, his wife, his children, his brothers and his sisters, yes, and his own life besides, he cannot be my talmid.

CEV

You cannot be my disciple, unless you love me more than you love your father and mother, your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters. You cannot come with me unless you love me more than you love your own life.

DARBY

If any man come to me, and shall not hate his own father and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yea, and his own life too, he cannot be my disciple;

DLNT

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, and furthermore, even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

DRA

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

ERV

“If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters—even more than your own life!

ESV

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

ESVUK

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

EXB

“If anyone comes to me but ·does not hate [or loves more than me; ^CJesus is using hyperbole to emphasize his point] his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—or even ·life [life itself; or his own life]—he cannot be my ·follower [disciple].

GNV

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters: yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

GW

“If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.

GNT

“Those who come to me cannot be my disciples unless they love me more than they love father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and themselves as well.

HCSB

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his own father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, and even his own life—he cannot be My disciple.

ICB

“If anyone comes to me but loves his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters more than he loves me, then he cannot be my follower. A person must love me more than he loves himself!

ISV

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as his own life, he can’t be my disciple.

PHILLIPS

Now as Jesus proceeded on his journey, great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and spoke to them, “If anyone comes to me without ‘hating’ his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be a disciple of mine. The man who will not take up his cross and follow in my footsteps cannot be my disciple.

JUB

If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, and even his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

KJV

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

AKJV

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

LEB

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, and furthermore, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

TLB

“Anyone who wants to be my follower must love me far more than he does his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—yes, more than his own life—otherwise he cannot be my disciple.

MSG

One day when large groups of people were walking along with him, Jesus turned and told them, “Anyone who comes to me but refuses to let go of father, mother, spouse, children, brothers, sisters—yes, even one’s own self!—can’t be my disciple. Anyone who won’t shoulder his own cross and follow behind me can’t be my disciple.

MEV

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

MOUNCE

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate · his own father and · mother, and · wife and · children, and · brothers and · sisters, and even · · his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

NOG

“If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.

NABRE

“If any one comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

NASB

“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

NCV

“If anyone comes to me but loves his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—or even life—more than me, he cannot be my follower.

NET

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother, and wife and children, and brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

NIRV

“Anyone who comes to me must hate their father and mother. They must hate their wife and children. They must hate their brothers and sisters. And they must hate even their own life. Unless they do this, they can’t be my disciple.

NIV

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

NIVUK

‘If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters – yes, even their own life – such a person cannot be my disciple.

NKJV

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

NLV

“If any man comes to Me and does not have much more love for Me than for his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be My follower.

NLT

“If you want to be my disciple, you must hate everyone else by comparison—your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even your own life. Otherwise, you cannot be my disciple.

NRSV

“Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.

NRSVA

‘Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.

NRSVACE

‘Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.

NRSVCE

“Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.

OJB

If someone comes to me, and does not hate [hyperbolically, in comparison to Moshiach] his own Abba and Em (mother) and isha and yeladim and achim and achayot and in addition also his own life [in the Olam Hazeh], he is not able to be my [Moshiach’s] talmid.

RSV

“If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

RSVCE

“If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

TLV

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters—and yes, even his own life—he cannot be My disciple.

VOICE

Jesus: If any of you come to Me without hating your own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even your own life, you can’t be My disciple.

WEB

“If anyone comes to me, and doesn’t disregard his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can’t be my disciple.

WE

Many people were going with Jesus. He turned to them and said, `If any man comes to me, he must hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sister. Yes, he must hate himself too. If he does not, he cannot be my disciple.

WYC

If any man cometh to me [If any man come to me], and hateth not his father, and mother, and wife, and sons, and brethren, and sisters, and yet [forsooth] his own life, he may not be my disciple.

YLT

`If any one doth come unto me, and doth not hate his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, and yet even his own life, he is not able to be my disciplle

I think thats pretty much a consensus Ed. It says hate. But like I said in my letter, its a symbolic parable. Compared  to your love and devotion to God, all else is hate. But you know you love and honor your parents, and your wife and kids, so your love for god must be everything if you are close to him and have experienced his power and are protected by his power, and see him in your life working in the past,  and now, and know he has the rest of your life in his hands. Peace

[mikeangel]

This was posted to my facebook publicly. Some family members will not discuss it with me.

[mikeangel]

Evil is what man does with the word of God when he complicates it and claims the  ideas are exclusive knowledge coming from their interpretation of it, or God told them somehow. David Koresh, Jim Jones, etc. Beware the devil,  Satan, who masquerades as an angel of light, or in “codes” or “numbers” or “Science”. Salvation is much more simple and pure then that, IMHO. Peace

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