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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Please report any issues with posting in the forum Rules, Help Desk &#038; Notices</title>
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<p>i spoke too soon. It’s back to not letting me post on my desktop. Sorry to be that problem child 🙁<br />
I took a screenshot of the response that I got just now:</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Noah Curses Ham in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 02:28:46 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>From my research, it is not uncommon for the wife to have her own tent. A wife needs a lot of closet space after all, haha. Anyway, I tend to lean towards the obvious, Noah was drunk and embarrassed and said the wrong thing. Many families are broken apart from careless words. The tongue is a dangerous part of the body.</p>
<p>Proverbs&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487737"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/noah-curses-ham/#post-947956" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 03:40:34 +1200</pubDate>

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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Noah Curses Ham in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:56:41 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>Good question, everyone that I have listened to from YouTube has asked a similar question as you, &#8220;what did Ham do&#8230;&#8221;  That seems to be a common question because that curse on Ham&#8217;s descendants through Canaan seems pretty over the top.</p>
<p>The thoughts I have are these: perhaps Ham didn&#8217;t do anything wrong; maybe Noah had a lapse in&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487734"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/noah-curses-ham/#post-947953" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:21:00 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Admin, I’ll check later when I’m on my desktop computer. I just typically write my post directly into the space provided on the thread.<br />
I appreciate your quick response, LU</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:13:01 +1200</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 18:31:45 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>I have been wrestling with this question: &#8216;What did Ham do to deserve such a curse from his father, Noah?&#8217; See the following passage here:</p>
<blockquote><p>Genesis 9:18The sons of Noah who came out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham was the father of Canaan. 19These three were the sons of Noah, and from them the whole earth was&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 18:02:55 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Admin, you can disregard that last message. I wasn’t able to reset my pw from my desktop but I could by my phone. I still can’t post a message from my desktop though. I still get an error message saying “Forbidden. Sender blacklisted. Anti-Spam by Clean Talk. Any advise?</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 17:48:26 +1300</pubDate>

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<blockquote><p> 1 Chronicles 22:9-10</p>
<p>9‘Behold, a son will be born to you, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side; for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quiet to Israel in his days. 10‘He shall build a house for My name, and he shall be My son and I will be his father; and I will&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2025 20:42:36 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>In Jewish tradition, naming a child was closely tied to the father’s legal role, and biblical examples show that the act of naming was considered a paternal responsibility that established lineage and identity. Joseph named Jesus. Jesus is Joseph&#8217;s legal son and therefore Solomon&#8217;s lineage in the legal sense. Mary brings the b&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487576"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/6/#post-947790" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>If, as you claim, Jesus is a demi-god, half god/half human then, according to your idea, the human side of him would be biologically related to David. Therefore Jesus is a biological descendant of David&#8217;s own body even if Jesus was considered a demi-god which I do not agree with. And, being a descendant of David&#8217;s own body, he would&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487574"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/6/#post-947788" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2025 04:11:50 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>To say that Mary&#8217;s Son isn&#8217;t a biological descendant of David because He didn&#8217;t have a biological father isn&#8217;t reasonable. The child was to be the seed of the woman and from a virgin.</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2025 02:16:34 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>Gen 1:14And God says, “Let luminaries be<strong> in the expanse</strong> of the heavens,</p>
<p>It says it right there. The expanse has waters above it and below it.</p>
<p>Regarding your &#8220;lol&#8221;, your &#8220;How about really thinking about the following logic&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I think this addresses the value of your &#8220;logic&#8221;:</p>
<p>Matt 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Fat&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487568"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-evening-and-morning-proof-of-24-hour-days-in-genesis/page/2/#post-947782" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 20:49:22 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>The Hebrew word for &#8220;sky&#8221; in day two is the same Hebrew word for &#8220;heavens&#8221; in verse one. The form is a dual/plural usually written a collective singular but sometimes is shown plural depending on the verb that is used with it when the word is a subject of a sentence.  You can see that the stars were placed<strong> in the expanse</strong> that is in&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487562"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-evening-and-morning-proof-of-24-hour-days-in-genesis/page/2/#post-947776" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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<p>Hi, I&#8217;ve been busy and will be busy for a couple of weeks for the holidays. I just have time for a couple of comments. I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:</p>
<p>Isa 9:6 For a child <strong>will</strong> <strong>be born</strong> to us, a son <strong>will be given</strong> to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487545"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/4/#post-947759" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>I took a screenshot of what happens when I try to post from my desktop:</p>
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<p>Lost last two posts are screen shots that I took of AI answers to my questions. I am having trouble posting here, an error message keeps popping up and I have to do a work around and send through my email and them post a picture here via my phone. Keep in mind that the last post of mine does not reflect the NSB1995 version and I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487518"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/3/#post-947724" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 05:11:09 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”</p>
<p>It was all there before Day 1.</p></blockquote>
<p>I read the beginning of Genesis as a title or overview of what is to come in the verses that come after the first part of chapter one. For instance, we are told that the expanse called heaven was not made till day two, so the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487508"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-evening-and-morning-proof-of-24-hour-days-in-genesis/#post-947716" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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<p>Regarding Jesus&#8217; qualifications for the eternal throne:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jewish Messianic Criteria<br />
Must be a descendant of David through Solomon (based on 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 22).<br />
Must be biologically descended from David, not just legally adopted.</p>
<p>Christian Resolution<br />
Matthew’s genealogy affirms Jesus’ legal right to David’s throne throu&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 03:41:24 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>Messianic Jews can be ethnically Jewish. Jews who have accepted the complex unity of the Godhead which includes Jesus.</p>
<p>Regarding Genesis 1:26 Read this about who God is talking to:</p>
<blockquote><p>Messianic Jews typically interpret Genesis 1:26 (&#8220;Let us make man in our image&#8221;) as a reference to the plurality within God&#8217;s nature—often understood a&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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<p>You never know when your own critical thought is going to bite you in the backside, do ya?</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;When are people going to verify what they have been told is truth and stop smashing the “I Believe Button”?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It seems that what appears to be in present tense, or past tense, can have special nuances. See here:</p>
<p>Isaiah 9:6 is a fas&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487505"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/3/#post-947713" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<blockquote><p>Messianic Jews generally recognize YHWH (the Tetragrammaton) as the name of the God of Israel, whom they worship as the one true God. They affirm His unity while also embracing the divinity of Yeshua (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit within a framework that parallels the Christian understanding of the Godhead.</p>
<p>Here’s how this plays out i&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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<p>Messianic Jews generally recognize YHWH (the Tetragrammaton) as the name of the God of Israel, whom they worship as the one true God. They affirm His unity while also embracing the divinity of Yeshua (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit within a framework that parallels the Christian understanding of the Godhead.</p>
<p>Here’s how this plays out i&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487502"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/3/#post-947710" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>Justin Martyr said:</p>
<blockquote><p> And I replied, “Not two Gods, but one God in two persons.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would have said &#8220;Not two separate Gods, but two divine eternal persons in unity. In some contexts, they are separately represented by the name &#8220;YHWH&#8221; and in other contexts they are together represented by the name &#8220;YHWH.&#8221;</p>
<p>My concern is bigger than who is ca&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487500"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/3/#post-947708" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>Maybe this can help, the translation of the Hebrew into Aramaic before Jesus incarnation shows the substituting of the name YHWH or the pronoun for YHWH, or the word &#8220;God&#8221;, with &#8220;Memra&#8221;.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Key Substitutions of Memra for YHWH in Targum Onkelos<br />
Genesis 28:21</p>
<p>Hebrew: “YHWH shall be my God.”<br />
Targum Onkelos: “The Memra of YHWH shall&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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<p>Targum is what I meant. Read this to see that the Targum’s use of “memra” was the Son of God according to Justin Martyr.</p>
<blockquote><p>Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, Chapter 61<br />
(Roberts-Donaldson Translation – Full Text with Memra Highlighted)</p>
<p>Below is the complete text of Chapter 61 from Justin Martyr’s Dialogue with Trypho (c. 150–160 C&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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<p>You Wrote:</p>
<p>Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.<br />
You wrote:</p>
<p>Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.<br />
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487495"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/3/#post-947703" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>At least you can&#8217;t say that the belief of two powers in Heaven held by enough people as a legitimate interpretive framework drawn from biblical texts as early as 560 BCE is a modern interpretation.</p>
<p>Have you heard of the Targums?</p>
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<p>Regarding the &#8220;two powers in Heaven&#8221; it is easier for me to just copy and paste the information from GROK. It saves me quite a lot of time trying to explain. Here it is word for word:</p>
<p>Overview of &#8220;Two Powers in Heaven&#8221; in Early Judaism<br />
The concept of &#8220;Two Powers in Heaven&#8221; (often rendered from the rabbinic Hebrew shnei rashuyot&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487486"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/2/#post-947686" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>I&#8217;m happy to tell you about the Two Powers of God, actually referred to as the &#8220;Two Powers of Heaven&#8221;.</p>
<p>The concept of &#8220;two powers in heaven&#8221; (often described as binitarianism in modern scholarship) refers to an early Jewish theological framework that posited two divine figures or manifestations sharing authority in the heavenly&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487482"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/2/#post-947682" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern. Make it follow this form: the name of a unity of persons = the title or category of each member in the unity.</p>
<p>Israel is the name of a unity, the House of Jacob. Israel=Jacob&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487481"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/2/#post-947681" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one.<br />
I am showing you that the name of the unity called Israel is made up of a man that God named Israel (Jacob) + Jacob&#8217;s sons. The unity called Israel is echad&#8230;one in a united sense of be&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487476"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/2/#post-947678" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>All good questions!</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It means my shirt has two colors, black and white.</strong> This grammatical concept is the same being used in the Deut 10:17 passage. This passage simply states YHWH is G-d above all other gods and Lord above all&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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<p>You ask:</p>
<blockquote><p> where does it say the meaning of the Tetragrammaton is the “fullness of G-d” and that it represents each of G-d’s “presences”?</p></blockquote>
<p>Deuteronomy 10:17</p>
<p>“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.</p>
<p>I understand t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487472"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/2/#post-947674" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.</p>
<p>Be blessed, LU</p>
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<p>Unity&#8230;let&#8217;s start here:</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p> what does Deut 6:4 say: “…The Lord our G-d is one Lord.” Did you catch “G-d” and “Lord” in the same sentence and HE is one?</p></blockquote>
<p>That is not really what Deut 6:4 says. I know it has been translated that way but it is not correct, popular but not correct. I am going to insert a picture of Deut 6:4 of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487463"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/2/#post-947663" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>Great collection of verses on the Angel of the LORD.</p>
<p>The &#8220;angel&#8221; of the LORD is also the YHWH who is written about here:</p>
<blockquote><p>The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb 1:2<br />
The radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. Heb 1:3<br />
One to be worshipped b&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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<p>Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Let&#8217;s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus as:</strong></p>
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<li>The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb&hellip;</li>
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<p>This question &#8220;Any thing that you disagree with in that Berean?&#8221;</p>
<p>And this question: &#8220;Any thoughts?</p>
<p>These questions relate to two posts above here directed to you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>There are a couple of responses here for you. Could you please address them?</p>
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<p>You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>And it is obvious that the Father is God and Jesus is Lord.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s start here:</p>
<p>In the OT, what is the proper name of the God and Lord in Deuteronomy 10:17?</p>
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<p>Let&#8217;s start here:</p>
<p>There is a theme of unity throughout scripture. Do you agree?</p>
<p>LU</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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<p>You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>It doesn’t say that God created the sun and moon on Day 4. They merely appeared in the firmament.</p></blockquote>
<p>14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. 15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487452"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-evening-and-morning-proof-of-24-hour-days-in-genesis/#post-947652" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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<p>Regarding what you wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>We are now living in Day Seven : God’s rest. And just as before, this day is not limited to twenty-four hours.</p></blockquote>
<p>There have been many of God&#8217;s Sabbath rests in God&#8217;s Feasts alone. Obviously, we are not in the 7th day Sabbath rest.</p>
<p>LU</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 17:12:58 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>Feel free to examine what is written and give any thoughtful wisdom in response that the LORD gives you.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>LU</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 18:32:58 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>Furthermore, as a follow up question, I asked GROK this for your benefit as an SDA:</p>
<blockquote><p>Is it possible that Ellen White would believe that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17?</p></blockquote>
<p>GROK&#8217;s reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, it is possible that Ellen White would believe Jesus is the &#8220;Lord of lords&#8221; described in Deuteronomy 10:17. As a co-founder of Seventh-day&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 18:20:50 +1300</pubDate>

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<p>Thanks for your answer. This might be an interesting discussion. I asked GROK this question:</p>
<p>Is it possible that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17</p>
<p>Here is the answer it gave me:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, from a Christian theological perspective, it is possible—and indeed a common interpretation—that Jesus is identified with the &#8220;Lord of lor&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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