@t8

Hi t8, can I assume that you don’t know in what way the Son is a son since you are not answering the question. If so, I assume that the truth that He is the Son of God has not been revealed to you by the Holy Spirit. Perhaps you accepted that truth because Peter said it and Jesus affirmed it as well as God saying it.

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@t8

Please answer the above post with one of the three choices. It is not about my doctrine. It is about your view. I don’t want to have to guess. So, just give us your view.

@t8

Once again:

Please tell me which way you understand the sonship of Jesus before He became a man:

He was the same type of being as his father. For example, Joseph was the same type of being as his father, Jacob.

He was a different type of being than his father. For example, an angel is a different type of being than the Father.

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@t8

Please tell me which way you understand the sonship of Jesus before He became a man:

He was the same type of being as his father. For example, Joseph was the same type of being as his father, Jacob.
He was a different type of being than his father. For example, an angel is a different type of being than the Father.
Other, please explain.

@t8

It seems to me that the difference between you and me is this:

For you, you have one God and Lord, the Father, and a lessor lord, Jesus Christ.

For me, I have one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ.

I believe that I am in line with Christians worldwide as well as Paul who wrote the verse you quote:

1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is…[Read more]

@t8

If God we’re your Father, you would not deny that His Son was Jehovah as the Lord of Lords, imo.

The Father and Son are one as Jehovah, in the fullest sense. Believers are not one AS Jehovah…believers are one IN Jehovah, in Jehovah’s name,  as the church body.

LU

@Rodel David

Welcome to HN. You ask a very important question. Deuteronomy 10:17 says this:

For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the terrible, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward.

Let me break this down for you:

Jehovah = God of gods + Lord of lords

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Furthermore, t8:

you said:

LU, the God you describe is a small committee of members by which you should refer to as “THEM” or “THOSE”, “THEIRS”, etc.

I do refer to them with plural pronouns. For example:

“They are represented as ONE.” From my second to last post. My use of the plural pronoun for YHWH is common. However, what I say doesn’t make…[Read more]

@t8

There is one God and one Lord in the fullest sense of that one God, t8. That is something you neglect to address. They are interdependent.

John 14:23

Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

@t8

Hi t8,

Sorry, I have been busy with other things since I last posted. I do want to address your concerns that you posted here:

IF the language treats a nation like a person then it also will not exclude the nation from being called ‘THEM’ etc. Even your post shows this.

But if God was truly just the Father as Paul and Jesus taught, the…

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@Jael

Hi Jael,

Good question, Jael. I only understand two persons in the unity, as well. I do not sense that the Holy Spirit is a third person but instead the Holy Spirit seems to be the united spirit of the two persons that extends from them without ever seperating from them. In a sense, the Holy Spirit seems to be the presence of the LORD…[Read more]

@t8

Hi t8, please address my previous post to you, thanks.

t8,

It is suffice to say that you missed the point of my post. I was not saying that the unity of Father and Son were a family. I was pointing out to you that within a unity, there can be one person that is head of another person and those persons can be together as head over all the other members and also that those top two persons in authority…[Read more]

t8

you said:

For a start. Unity is with the Father, Son, and Church. Believers can be one with each other and with Christ and God. Just as the Father and the Son are one, so can we be too.

The truth is that we can be one with Jesus and God. But you make it all out to be God except for us. But if this unity you speak of makes one YHWH, then you…

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@Jael,

you said:

LU, so you mean that it was God that made Jesus ‘perfect’ in completing his works?

Wasn’t it JESUS who WAS PERFECTED …

How does the word ‘perfect’ (perfected) suddenly come to mean ‘completed’ in the context of the verse?

LU, scriptures says that Jesus BECAME PERFECT…

But you say that it says that Jesus COMPLETED ?!!

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t8

you said:

I make the distinction that God is higher than the one whom he made Lord of his creation.

The Christians believe that the Father is greater than the Son in authority too. They also believe that both are in unity as YHVH. There are various degrees of authority within the unity of marriage and within the unity of the church, and within…[Read more]

Hi Bo,

It’s been a while!

Islam is calling someone Jesus Christ that did not die on a cross and that wasn’t the Son of God. They have a different Jesus than the one who truly is the Christ. The true Christ was/is the actual Son of God, did die on a cross, was buried, and rose from the dead. Islam does not acknowledge the true Christ when they…[Read more]

@Jael

Hi Jael,

you asked:

You said something about Jesus being always perfect.

What does Hebrews 5: 8-9 say?

How does ‘AFTER…learning obedience …and being made perfect’ imply ‘was always perfect’?

That word “perfect” is used in a sense of having completed the task. It does not imply that Jesus was an imperfect person.

Read what the commenta…[Read more]

t8

you said:

I can grasp a 50 foot spaghetti monster

That would be a waste of time now wouldn’t it.

Spend time trying to grasp that there is One God the Father and one Lord, the Son , Jesus Christ.

After you let that sink in to your heart, grasp that YHVH is that one God and one Lord…Father and Son. Jesus really is a Son, a literal, true, Son…[Read more]