@Jael

Hello there Jael. You asked:

So if Jesus being ‘one with the Father makes him “GOD” just as the Father is God, then why would the disciples (Actually, APOSTLES) NOT be “GOD” as Jesus wished for them?

Being one with the Father is not what made the Son to be God. It is His divine and eternal essence that makes the Son to be God. Believers…[Read more]

@Jael

You ask a good question.

As I understand, the Father and the Son are equal in essence-two persons…one eternal and divine essence. (When I think of essence in perhaps a way to understand it according to this physical world, I think of two identical cells…they are two in number but one in essence.) In regards to the Father and the…[Read more]

@Jael

You ask a good question.

As I understand, the Father and the Son are equal in essence-two persons…one eternal and divine essence. (When I think of essence in perhaps a way to understand it according to this physical world, I think of two identical cells…they are two in number but one in essence.) In regards to the Father and the…[Read more]

@t8

Thanks for your answer. Do you agree that the Son is the only son who has always had the same nature of the Father?

@t8

Thank you for those verses. I agree that those verses seem to show that He has always been the Son of God. Seems impossible to send a son if you do not have a son to send and also for the ‘image of  God’ and the ‘firstborn over all creation’ to create all things, He would have to be that ‘image’ and ‘firstborn’ before creation. Those are…[Read more]

@t8

I see that you have not answered my last question here dated September 8. Please answer that here so I don’t have to send you to the hot seat again. After you answer that last question above this post, you can answer this question regarding your response which I will paste here:

My question to you was:

Please tell me which way you understand…

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@t8

Thank you for answering this in less than 6 weeks! I agree with your choice. I have a follow up question which I will post in our debate thread.

Also, I never meant to frighten you, haha. I was curious whether or not you were going to respect your own design though.

@t8

Hi t8, can I assume that you don’t know in what way the Son is a son since you are not answering the question. If so, I assume that the truth that He is the Son of God has not been revealed to you by the Holy Spirit. Perhaps you accepted that truth because Peter said it and Jesus affirmed it as well as God saying it.

Ask Yahweh to reveal the…[Read more]

@t8

Please answer the above post with one of the three choices. It is not about my doctrine. It is about your view. I don’t want to have to guess. So, just give us your view.

@t8

Once again:

Please tell me which way you understand the sonship of Jesus before He became a man:

He was the same type of being as his father. For example, Joseph was the same type of being as his father, Jacob.

He was a different type of being than his father. For example, an angel is a different type of being than the Father.

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@t8

Please tell me which way you understand the sonship of Jesus before He became a man:

He was the same type of being as his father. For example, Joseph was the same type of being as his father, Jacob.
He was a different type of being than his father. For example, an angel is a different type of being than the Father.
Other, please explain.

@t8

It seems to me that the difference between you and me is this:

For you, you have one God and Lord, the Father, and a lessor lord, Jesus Christ.

For me, I have one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ.

I believe that I am in line with Christians worldwide as well as Paul who wrote the verse you quote:

1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is…[Read more]

@t8

If God we’re your Father, you would not deny that His Son was Jehovah as the Lord of Lords, imo.

The Father and Son are one as Jehovah, in the fullest sense. Believers are not one AS Jehovah…believers are one IN Jehovah, in Jehovah’s name,  as the church body.

LU

@Rodel David

Welcome to HN. You ask a very important question. Deuteronomy 10:17 says this:

For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the terrible, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward.

Let me break this down for you:

Jehovah = God of gods + Lord of lords

Now look at what Paul says in 1…[Read more]

Furthermore, t8:

you said:

LU, the God you describe is a small committee of members by which you should refer to as “THEM” or “THOSE”, “THEIRS”, etc.

I do refer to them with plural pronouns. For example:

“They are represented as ONE.” From my second to last post. My use of the plural pronoun for YHWH is common. However, what I say doesn’t make…[Read more]

@t8

There is one God and one Lord in the fullest sense of that one God, t8. That is something you neglect to address. They are interdependent.

John 14:23

Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

@t8

Hi t8,

Sorry, I have been busy with other things since I last posted. I do want to address your concerns that you posted here:

IF the language treats a nation like a person then it also will not exclude the nation from being called ‘THEM’ etc. Even your post shows this.

But if God was truly just the Father as Paul and Jesus taught, the…

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@Jael

Hi Jael,

Good question, Jael. I only understand two persons in the unity, as well. I do not sense that the Holy Spirit is a third person but instead the Holy Spirit seems to be the united spirit of the two persons that extends from them without ever seperating from them. In a sense, the Holy Spirit seems to be the presence of the LORD…[Read more]

@t8

Hi t8, please address my previous post to you, thanks.