Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Hi Jodi,

you said:

First just let me say that I suggest like Anthony, reading some OT and then using it, as you should for your foundation to the identity of the Messiah.

I have read through the entire OT chronologically before and read it as individual “books” many times. I am always interested in how the NT helps explain the OT. I think I’m…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

I’m not sure how that challenge would benefit us since we all three agree that Jesus was prophesied about as the coming Messiah in the OT, and we all agree that He was to be a man as the Messiah and the Son of David.

I don’t mind a challenge of some sort though. Maybe the topic could be about where the OT speaks about Jesus, sorta like…[Read more]

Hi C.S.,

Last night I saw that you said this and I have to say that I totally unite with you in what you said here about what an only begotten son would be!

you said:

We don’t use the words begetting or begotten much in the modern English, but everyone still knows what they mean. To beget is to become the father of: to create is to make. And t…

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John 1:18

No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

John 1:1c

…the Word was God (the Son, the only begotten God).

John 1:14a

And the Word became flesh…

1 Timothy 3:16

…God (the Son, the only begotten God) was manifest in the flesh…received up into glory.

Acts 20:28c…[Read more]

Jodi,

you said to Anthony:

THIS is a HUGE problem Anthony, you cannot say he is actually a HUMAN being if he was not born with the SEED of a MAN, and the EGG of a WOMAN.

Was Adam a human being? Was he conceived with the seed of a man and the egg of a woman??? NO!  Was Eve a human being, was Eve conceived with the seed of a man, and the egg of a…[Read more]

Mike,

Look at this picture of the full moon NOT inside the penumbra and then inside of the penumbra. There is not much difference.

http://cnnphilippines.com/lifestyle/2016/03/03/Solar-eclipse-penumbral-lunar-eclipse-visible-Philippines.html

Mike,

Here is the pic #11 from your ABC 15 site at 5:30 am. It looks like the timeanddate.com picture at 5:30 am.

Now go here and see the animated picture of the same event:

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/phoenix?iso=20180131

The lighter part of the moon is within the penumbra. The moon is going from below the umbra, up into…[Read more]

Jodi

you quoted a verse:

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

“unto a perfect man” refers to the “we” and perfect means “mature,” not flawless.

Ephesians 4:13

13until we all attain to the unity of the…[Read more]

Jodi,

I believe that Jesus was saying that He existed before Abraham existed and I would not be among the Pharisees throwing stones, I understand that He is claiming to be the actual, same in essence, Son of God who pre-existed Abraham. The Pharisees did not understand THAT. You don’t understand that.

Of course the true and only begotten Son of…[Read more]

Mike,

you said:

The moon is setting on the earth. In what scenario could the sun be lighting the bottom, while the earth that the moon is setting on is shadowing the top? How can the earth that is eclipsing the top not also eclipse the bottom? How can the sun that is lighting the bottom not also be lighting the top?

It’s like the sun must be s…

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Hi Anthony,

Keep the faith!

John 1:18

No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

John 1:1c

…the Word was God (the Son, the only begotten God).

John 1:14a

And the Word became flesh…

1 Timothy 3:16

…God (the Son, the only begotten God) was manifest in the flesh…[Read more]

You change scripture to suit you, Nick, is that what we are to do?

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifest in the flesh,

justified in the Spirit,

seen of angels,

preached unto the Gentiles,

believed on in the world,

received up into glory.

Who was justified in Spirit, who was seen of…[Read more]

The Great Shepherd became the unblemished Lamb. The originator of creation also became the Savior of creation.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Hi Jodi,

Once again, none of those verses disprove the pre-existence of the Son as the eternal offspring part of God.

Mike,

you said:

And you can search 1-31-18 eclipse from Phoenix, and you’ll find local news sites that have collections of photos sent in by local Phoenix residents, and some of them are top-down, while others are side-to-side.

Could you send me the link to the local news sites. I couldn’t find them. Thanks!

There was only one Spirit within the developing flesh, Nick, the pre-existent Son.

Hi Dig4truth,

you wrote:

I asked James why the moon was only half lit up when the sun was so high in the sky being 10:00 AM. He didn’t have a clue and to be honest I didn’t either.

The answer: The moon phase for July 6 is the half moon phase, that is why it is half lit even during the day. It is on its way to the new moon phase coming up on Jul…[Read more]

No Nick, not a gamete. The Son in spirit form was brought forth into Mary’s womb where He united with the flesh of a developing human being when Mary conceived.

Mike,

your post from this comment:

Okay Kathi, I see that you are stumped. I’ll make one more attempt, using Google World and the timeanddate.com diagram. First up is Google World, with Phoenix centered in the middle and the sun and moon added in…

That post and diagrams AND presumptions are not making any sense. Don’t you have a globe on a sta…[Read more]