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    Jodi,

    You asked: Falsely teach what exactly according to this specific passage?

    I am pointing out to you that you believe that Jesus is “a” but those verses that I put up call Jesus “the” Lord. Can you call Jesus “the” Lord?

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    Hi Jodi,

    You said: the Lord OUR God is ONE Lord

    You say that over and over but where does it say that specifically in the Bible in the original language and what is the original word that was translated as “Lord?” It seems that you will find out that your understanding of this is but sand and that you have been building a sand castle that is about…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    How many more verses do you want to see before you will admit that you have incorrectly been calling Jesus “a lord” and not “the Lord?” I could go on and on.

    Mark 16:19

    So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.

    Did you notice the article “the” as in “the Lord<…[Read more]

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    Jodi,

    You probably won’t like this verse either:

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    Luke 1

    42In a loud voice she exclaimed, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43And why am I so honored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44For as soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.…

    Literally tra…[Read more]

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    Jodi,

    You probably won’t like this verse either:

    1 Cor 11:23

    For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread;

    Did you notice the article “the as in the Lord” there, not “a lord” as you want to believe.

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    Jodi,

    You said: LU, Jesus was making the point that without his God he is nothing.

    That is so far from reality.

    The Father and the Son do nothing apart from each other. Together they can do everything needed.

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    Gene,

    If you had read my response to your “dia” argument, you wouldn’t keep mentioning it. See if you can find it.

    Have a good day, LU

     

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    Jodi,

    You asked:

    Matthew 19: 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

    Who is “he” that says there is none good but ONE?

    Jesus asks questions to some people and looks for evidence or lack of evidence of faith, then responds acc…[Read more]

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    Jodi,

    I have many possible things to say about your recent posts. Perhaps I will get to that but I want to put this here for you. This should be clear to those who are willing to see that Jesus is THE Lord, not a Lord AND THE God of Thomas.

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    John 20:27 Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand a…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    Oh who can fathom…from the One mind came both. Jesus is the wisdom of God.

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    t8

    You said: And given that other translations translate it simply as ‘lord’, then this is a fail.

    You need to dig a little deeper. We know that many translations translate the name YHWH as LORD but that doesn’t mean He is not Jehovah does it.

    Anyway, you post greek interlinear passages when I posted a translation that is not from a Greek man…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You said:

    Okay, let’s go even slower then… There couldn’t be a “their” in the original cell unless there were already two individual sentient persons. So is that your claim?

    The original one had within itself the potential to become both a father and a son, their substance was within the original one before it went through the begetting process.

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    Hi Carmel,

    Maybe you’re joking but in case you are serious, the human mother has within her an eggs that someday will possibly become person/persons. Until it is fertilized, that egg is not a person because persons have 46 chromosomes but an egg only has 23. The egg requires the other 23 chromosomes to come from a sperm. Biology 101 🙂

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    Mike,

    You said:

    But wait… according to the scriptures I just posted, the “Jehovah” who is eternal (no origins) is the “Jehovah” who created the whole world. So according to your theory, that couldn’t have been either the Father OR the Son – since you say they both have origins. Kathi, your scenario begins with one God who is eternal, and…

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    Mike,

    I appreciate the discussion. I am intending on sticking with you till you see what I am trying to say because I believe it is really important and worthy the focus.

    Mike, you said: But you say Jesus didn’t have an origin, don’t you?  Micah 5:2 says he did.  Please reconcile.

    The One who became a giver and a receiver of the eternal subst…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    The Father’s origin began at the same moment the Son’s origin began. Their substance eternally existed before the One became a father and a son.

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    Mike,

    That verse in Micah 5:2 does nothing to challenge the origin in regards to relationship of father/son from eternity but enforces it.

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    Gene,

    What specific “if” are you wanting scriptural proof for?

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    Berean,

    The first and last part of Hebrews 1 is not in reference to the Son according to the flesh, that is correct. However, there is a part of Hebrews 1 that is according to the flesh as the Son of David when the Son receives his rule on the eternal throne promised to the son of David. The Son receives his kingdom rule when he was begotten from…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    Suffice it to say that you missed the cell analogy point. It was not to say that God is a cell, it was to show what asexual reproduction looks like and how One is expressed as two and the two are together the fullness of the one regarding their substance.

    Now that you “maybe” realize this, build your case as to your claim that the Son…[Read more]

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