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Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 3 months ago
Gene,
Jesus said that we are to know two persons to have eternal life, one is the Father and the other is the Son. Please don’t pretend that Jesus isn’t the elohim who is our one Lord.
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 3 months ago
carmel,
You said:
WHY, may I ask:
unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?
WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?
It’s both.
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 3 months ago
Gene,
You said:
God made “all” mankind in his “image”…
Mankind is made in their image.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:…
Jesus is the image of the invisible God, singular…you are not.
Mankind is made in their image, plural.
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Merry Christmas Mia and everyone. Unto to us a Son is given!
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
I think people would say that they love the truth and truly think they do but are actually very deceived and can not see the truth. They lean on their own limited understanding and their lack of understanding. There is overwhelming evidence for a globe earth yet they believe it is a massive conspiracy which is majorly insulting the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Berean,
You said:
The Father and the Son HAVE WORKED AND WORK TOGETHER.
BUT THAT DOES NOT REMOVE THAT THE FATHER ONLY IS THE ONE TRUE GOD. ALL HONORS GO TO HIM FIRST.The question is in the OP as to whether or not the Father does the God stuff interdependently with the Son or independently of the Son. You admit that they work together. That is in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
You asked:
please tell us how is a God “begotten”?
He is born of His Father, the invisible God who He is an image of.
Col 1 15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or aut…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer:
You said:
Not God, but God’s Son.
Who is the God that inherits the nations in Psalms 82:8?
Psalms 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer and Berean,
Did one person create the world alone or with another person?
Did one person save the world alone or with another person?
Is one person governing the world alone in this age or with another person?
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
Reposted:
You said:
In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek,
Would you mind showing your source for that statement?
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
There is only one begotten son who is also an only begotten God in the bosom of the Father. All other sons are sons by creation, designation, or being born again. None of the other sons are also an only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father.
No other son is the God who inherits the nations. No son is our God who inherits the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
You wrote some good points to Danny. This flat earth nonsense is right up there with gender confusion, imo.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Danny,
What exactly was factual about what you wrote? Have you ever taken a Physics class?
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene, this topic is about what “monogenes” means. Some say that it means “unique” and the video shows that it means “only begotten.” It is not about calling anyone else “father.” Please post elsewhere in an appropriate topic. Thanks! LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
. In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek,
Would you mind showing your source for that statement?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Danny, you didn’t respond to my last post to you. In fact you have done that several times in other topics as far as I recall. If you consider what I wrote, it could help you understand things a bit better.
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Even a child knows that the child is the same type as their father, therefore the only son would not be the prototype. The father would be the prototype of his only begotten son who would not have any siblings of the same type of both he and his father since he is an only begotten.
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Even a child knows that with every father, there is a son or daughter that “made him a father”. No one becomes a father independently of their offspring.
Lightenup started the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Shall we examine what scripture and reasoning says about whether the Father is:
independent from the Son
or
interdependent with the Son
in order to be the one true God.
I hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.
As I understand it…if…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
It might be too intellectual for you, not sure. 🙂
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