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Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jesus was considered “anointed” as a baby. See that He was called the “Christ” or the anointed one in these two passages.
Matt 2:3
When King Herod heard this, he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. 4And when he had assembled all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he asked them where the Christ was to be born.
Luke 2
25And…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Mike,
You said:
My point was that the Father does things without needing the power/authority/company/assistance of the Son. Some of those things the Father does without the Son are for the benefit of the Son, sure. But that’s not the story you’re painting here. You’re trying to imply that the Father NEEDS the Son in order to do stuff – as if…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Mike,
You asked:
The prayer mentions the creation, right?
1. Did Jesus’ apostles pray to the one who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them? (Clear, honest, and succinct answer please.)
2. Is Jesus the one to whom they prayed? (Clear, honest, and succinct answer please.)
Yes, Mike, the prayer mentions the creation.
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Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Another of Jodi’s false teaching:
Regarding Hebrews 1:8
She said: “God called him a god, as He called Moses a god.“
The definite article is used before “theos” in Hebrews 1:8 therefore “a god” would be an incorrect translation, as seen here:

See the Strong’s definition for #3588:

Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Thank you Pilgrim and Carmel for your refreshing posts!
Blessings, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Gene,
I believe the author of that quote is comparing what he knows is true to what you believe and what a huge difference there is between One who is the Only Begotten God who became a man to a man that didn’t pre-exist as the Only Begotten God.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Chosen in the forum Chatroom 6 years, 1 month ago
It is really good, Boomerang. The first couple of episodes are kind of slow but they are laying a foundation for the rest. Enjoy!
Lightenup replied to the topic Sabbath debate in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Saint Ignatius regarding the Sabbath (Ignatius was an early church writer, bishop and Christian martyr who lived 35AD-108 AD):
Ignatius is claimed to be the first known Christian writer to argue in favor of Christianity’s replacement of the Sabbath with the Lord’s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Does this sound like anyone here?
Saint Ignatius of Antioch: The Epistles, page 141
If any one says there is one God, and also confesses Christ Jesus, but thinks the Lord to be a mere man, and not the only-begotten God, and Wisdom, and the Word of God, and deems Him to consist merely of a soul and body, such an one is a serpent, that preaches…
Lightenup replied to the topic Believers – Alone (Only Believing Spouse) in the forum About Believers Place 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Boomerang,
Hopefully someday your wife will know the love of Jesus and realize how much He wants to have a relationship with her. Even being in a Christian marriage, one person may be completely not interested in apologetics and studying the Bible while the other is very much so interested it that. Fortunately we can all love each other where…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Philippians 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Berean, great job on your posting.
The only begotten Son has always been loving the sons of man from their beginning back in Genesis. He loved man so much that he willing came to lay down his life for mankind in order to redeem them. Greater love has no man than the love of the Father and the Son. We can only imagine.
Blessings, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Gene,
You said: LU…..I think slowing down and deal with what is written clearly in our scriptures would help you also. I know you have been taught a lot of different things over many years, by different writers, but following their teaching can led you no where in the end, because if they are wrong and wind up in the ditch so will you right? I t…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Seriously Gene,
You asked Berean: Berean, what do you do with the geology of Jesus given in Luke 3:23-38, have you thrown it out of your bible?
First of all, you mean genealogy, not geology. Second of all, Christians all over the world acknowledge the genealogy of Jesus as the son of created man which is different than how he is the only begotten…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You are right, there are so many fallacies in the teaching of Jodi and Gene. There really seems to be something that is covering their spiritual eyes.
Let’s continue to hope for unity.
God bless, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
I understand that Jesus is begotten by God from the grave on the day of his resurrection as the Firstborn from the dead so that he will be the firstborn of many brethren according to his flesh as David’s descendant.
When I say that you don’t believe that God has a biological son, I am referring to the monogenes (only begotten) Son who was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
You believe in a god that has no true biological son. That is different than the one the Bible teaches.
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
You said:
Paul says, “to us there is but ONE God, the Father“.
And who does Paul say is our ONE Lord? Jehovah is not just God but God and Lord.
Jesus says, “I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
When Jesus says “my God, and your God” that equates to OUR God, his and mine together, we share the same God.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Irenaeus says, regarding the Word of God:
And again Moses tells how the Son of God drew near to hold converse with Abraham: And God appeared unto him by the oak of Mamre in the middle of the day. And looking up with his eyes he beheld, and, lo, three men stood over against him. And he bowed himself down to the earth, and said: Lord, if indeed I…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
You said:
Honestly not trying to be disrespectful but I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.
You are not addressing the POINT given AT ALL.
You want to tell Gene and I that Jesus is not of the tribe of Judah, that he is not a son of Jesse and David, and thus is not an Israelite?
You want to tell us that Jesus is a liar when he said…
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