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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2009,23:22)Hi lU, Should you ask servants of God to worship another servant?Hi Nick, Kerwin, Marty,If God tells the angels to worship the Son is it not ok for us to worship the Son also.Heb 1:66 And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, “AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.” NASUNo matter…[Read more]

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    Marty, The Father calls Him God. I know that He is not the one Most High God but He is still called God and worshipped. You won't call Him God and worship Him?Kathi

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    Hi Marty,Thanks for the answer. Another question…when do you think the Son of God became God?Blessings,Kathi

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2009,11:39)Lightenup said:Quote Everything the Son does is actually the Father's work.LU,Your statement above is true only while Christ was in the flesh. The Son's works while He was in the flesh were actually the Father's works. But before Jesus assumed flesh it was all actually His own work. The Father Himself…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all,I believe the scriptures teach us that the Son of God does the work of the Father. He did that during creation as well as in the flesh. Everything the Son does is actually the Father's work. John 4:34″My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work. (that is Jesus speaking)Heb 1:10″YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Mar. 24 2009,22:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2009,12:08)Marty,Scripture in John 1 or Hebrews 1 does not state “spirit of the son” anywhere but that is what you state…it's not there.KathiHi LU:In Genesis it is written that God made man in His own image, and in 1 Co 15 the scriptures state that the first Adam was made a living…[Read more]

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    Marty,Scripture in John 1 or Hebrews 1 does not state “spirit of the son” anywhere but that is what you state…it's not there.Kathi

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    Mandy,I am happy for you!Kathi

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    Hi Marty,You asked:Quote Quote Psa 82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye gods; and all of you children of the most High. Psa 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall And this is intersting, I hadn't noticed this before now. What…[Read more]

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    Hi Marty and Kerwin,Thank you for your thoughtful replies. A big difference that is see between the Son and others that may be referred to as Elohyim is they are never credited with laying the foundation of the earth and heaven being the work of their hands. Also Hebrews 1 is very comparable to John 1 and helps explain that the “word” is indeed…[Read more]

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    Irene,I'm glad they figured out what you have. At least they can begin to address it. I hope you are feeling better soon.Love ya,Kathi

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    Quote (Cindy @ Mar. 20 2009,07:57)By grace through faith in Christ we are saved, not by ourselves so no one can boast.Ephesians 2: 8 ” For by grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.             2: 9 not of works lest anyone should boast.Peace and Love IreneIrene,Good verse, thanks!Love,Kathi

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2009,11:47)Hi Marty and Kerwin,Something that I do not understand is that you both want to teach what is true but neither of you acknowledges the Son of God as the God that the Father speaks of in this passage below in Hebrews.  This passage acknowledges that the “God” that the Father is referring to (His Son), has a…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 20 2009,01:07)I made an error and did not include all my last quote in the quote box.  It actually ends after the word Amen and then comes by final comment.  I am sorry if this causes any confusion.Hi Kerwin,You can ask for editing rights and fix this type of thing. Go to the help desk and ask t8 for editing rights. After h…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 20 2009,01:42)I am still interested in Hebrews 1:1-3 and its correct translation and interpretation.Hebrews 1:1-2(ASV) readsQuote God, having of old time spoken unto the fathers in the prophets by divers portions and in divers manners,  hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son, whom he appointed heir of all…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Mar. 19 2009,19:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2009,15:38)Hi 94, What or who was John speaking of that WAS BEFORE HIM?Hi Nick:The scripture states: Quote shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;God made every thing that He made with Jesus in mind.  He was foreordained.Quote 1Pe 1:19…[Read more]

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    Quote Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2009,03:47) Hi Marty and Kerwin,Something that I do not understand is that you both want to teach what is true but neither of you acknowledges the Son of God as the God that the Father speaks of in this passage below in Hebrews. This passage acknowledges that the “God” that the Father is referring to (His Son),…[Read more]

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    Hi Kerwin,You wrote:Quote Now if I understand you correctly you believe Jesus is God who cannot be tempted by evil while even angels can be tempted by evil. It seems clear to be that if one is concerned believing Jesus is an angel is damaging to the true faith then believing he is God also damaging to the faith and that faith is of critical…[Read more]

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    Hi Marty and Kerwin,Something that I do not understand is that you both want to teach what is true but neither of you acknowledges the Son of God as the God that the Father speaks of in this passage below in Hebrews. This passage acknowledges that the “God” that the Father is referring to (His Son), has a God, the Father Himself.Not only that but…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2009,00:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 18 2009,05:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2009,17:35)Hi KW, Those following Jesus do not all share the same level of understanding but they have all obeyed the simple commands of Jesus.Hi Nick,What do you say are the simple commands of Jesus to obey in order to be on the narrow…[Read more]

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