Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 22 2009,21:59)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,16:02)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,20:52)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,12:31)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,18:49)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,08:45)NT:2258 h@n en (ane); imperfect of NT:1510; I (thou, etc.) was (wast or were):Kathi,An imperfect tense denotes continuous…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 22 2009,10:55)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2009,14:24)Hi TT,Your argument is with God and one of His most quoted psalms, ps2.God begat a Son.God is not make in the image of fleshly men.Nick,According to Hebrews God “begat ” Jesus AFTER He purged our sins and sat dwon at God's  right hand,Quote Who being the brughtness…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2009,11:48)Quote (Lightenup @ April 23 2009,03:34)Quote (thethinker @ April 22 2009,04:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,14:41)Thinker Do you mind showing me where I am incorrect?  Do you think that the Greek word for “was” in John 1:1 is not a verb, third person, singular, imperfect, active and…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 22 2009,04:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,14:41)Thinker Do you mind showing me where I am incorrect?  Do you think that the Greek word for “was” in John 1:1 is not a verb, third person, singular, imperfect, active and indicative?Quote The parsing of verbs by Kathi has gotten pathetic. John's prologue is so simple to…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,20:52)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,12:31)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,18:49)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,08:45)NT:2258 h@n en (ane); imperfect of NT:1510; I (thou, etc.) was (wast or were):Kathi,An imperfect tense denotes continuous action does it not?Hi Is,According to this explanation below from…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,22:37)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,14:28)Is,First go here: http://www.studylight.org/isb….=1&l=ennext look at the Greek words under the John 1:1 verse and see “hn (5713)” which “hn” is the “was” in John 1:1.  click on the  “(5713)” and read the “Imperfect” section of the pop up.  This explanation is re…[Read more]

Thinker Do you mind showing me where I am incorrect? Do you think that the Greek word for “was” in John 1:1 is not a verb, third person, singular, imperfect, active and indicative?Quote The parsing of verbs by Kathi has gotten pathetic. John's prologue is so simple to understand,BTW, I think you are not being very kind with your choice of words…[Read more]

Is,First go here: http://www.studylight.org/isb….=1&l=ennext look at the Greek words under the John 1:1 verse and see “hn (5713)” which “hn” is the “was” in John 1:1. click on the “(5713)” and read the “Imperfect” section of the pop up. This explanation is referring to the “hn” or “en” as it is transliterated.Let me know if you followed that.Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,21:48)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,12:33)Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,18:16)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and Keith,The context already has established that the “Word” was there.  The things that came into being are the other things that came into being through the one who was the “Word.”Kathi,It doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,21:53)Lightenup said:Quote Is, The explanation from Studylight.org includes all forms of “eimi” which means to be.  To be is an infinitive verb which is written in the forms: is, am, are, was, were, be, being, been.I am not making this up either.  I even got this info from a trinitarian site.Kathi,Your point b…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,21:25)Or how about Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words?I think this elucidates the misunderstanding….* Note: When not part of another verb, or phrase, these translate eimi, “to be,” e.g., Matt. 1:18, or the following: (a) ginomai, “to become,” e.g., Matt. 8:26; (b) huparcho, “to exist,” especially…[Read more]

Marty,It says that His origins are from ancient time and it does say that He laid the foundations of the world in an active living way.Kathi

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,20:52)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,12:31)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,18:49)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,08:45)NT:2258 h@n en (ane); imperfect of NT:1510; I (thou, etc.) was (wast or were):Kathi,An imperfect tense denotes continuous action does it not?Hi Is,According to this explanation below from…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 21 2009,17:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,09:31)Quote (942767 @ April 21 2009,17:15)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,08:01)Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,15:06)Lightenup said:Quote Good grief why would God who is complete need a counterpart to reproduce?  Man needs a helpmate, God does not.Kathi,Agreed. Then why do…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,18:16)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and Keith,The context already has established that the “Word” was there.  The things that came into being are the other things that came into being through the one who was the “Word.”Kathi,It doesn't say “other” things. You're putting words into John's mouth.thinkerIt doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2009,18:49)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,08:45)NT:2258 h@n en (ane); imperfect of NT:1510; I (thou, etc.) was (wast or were):Kathi,An imperfect tense denotes continuous action does it not?Hi Is,According to this explanation below from http://www.studylight.org there is a difference in the case of the verb “to be” which “was”…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 21 2009,17:15)Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2009,08:01)Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,15:06)Lightenup said:Quote Good grief why would God who is complete need a counterpart to reproduce?  Man needs a helpmate, God does not.Kathi,Agreed. Then why do you say that Jesus is the “literal” Son of God? Explain yourself for it…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,15:11)WorshipingJesus said to Kathi:Quote You say that Jesus came into being. John says that nothing came into being without him.Amen! One does not need a degree in rocket science to undertsand such a simple statement.thinkerThinker and Keith,The context already has established that the “Word” was there. The…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 21 2009,15:23)Lightenup said:Quote BTW, your trinitarian brothers do not seem to agree that the verse we were discussing about the Son being “given” life referred to the ascribing of self-existence.KathiKathi,Jesus did not say that the Father gave “life” to Him. He said that the Father gave Him to “have life IN HIMSELF.”…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 21 2009,16:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2009,08:42)Hi KathiAnd we are typing at the same time again.LOLKeithHi kathiWell not at the same time. But I didnt see your last post when I typed mine. WJVery funny experience Keith. I am glad that is cleared up “Mr. Anonymous?”.Love, K