Quote (Gene @ April 24 2009,23:09)To All………….1 Jo 3:1….Behold, what manner of Love the FATHER has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD. Therefore the world knows us not because it knew him not> 2.> Beloved, (NOW) are we the Sons of GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we Shall be: but we KNOW that, when he shall…[Read more]

Hi Irene,I'm sorry that you are still suffering more than normal.  Are the doctor's still treating the infection and how about that gout?  Still praying for some relief for you.Love, KathiHere is a sing-a-long for you Irene, I hope this brings some encouragement. Sing loud so I can hear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUyL0ZUFfM

Quote (thethinker @ April 24 2009,19:38)Quote (kerwin @ April 25 2009,06:14)The Thinker wrote:Quote I have noticed how brothers Nick, Kerwin and gollumandi have ignored Hebrews 1:1-5 which says that Jesus INHERITED the name “begotten” or “firstborn.” I reluctantly include brother Gene too for I love him more than all others.You are mistaken I…[Read more]

Hi Is,He was declared the son “with power.” He always was the son but now He was given authority so now He was given power. That is how I understand that anyway. Different ways of looking at the same thing again. K

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2009,14:25)Hi KathiQuote (Lightenup @ April 24 2009,02:56)He was used to make the one we stand on, He made it go from formless and void to formed and inhabited.  In that sense I believe He made this world.  I don't believe that He was used to make the formless world but He began after the formless world existed. …[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 24 2009,14:46)Lightenup said:Quote Isaac was chosen as the firstborn….Kathi,Yes indeed! Isaac was CHOSEN as the firstborn. The word “chosen” is the key. But  Isaac was NOT the firstborn literally. Though Isaac had always had been the firstborn in the counsel of God it was needed in human history that God come to…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ April 24 2009,13:30)To all!  When you add to scripture you get mashed potatoes. We need to remember to stick to Scripture only. How God brought forth His only begotten Son, is not the Question. The question always was and is, did He exist before the world was? For that we have Col. 1:15-16-17Rev. 3:14John 1:1-14I find it even…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ April 24 2009,12:45)thinker………..Inherit, means you did not have it (before), or why would have to inherited it.  It says Jesus inherited a name better (Name) , so the question has to be is (WHEN) he inherited it why brother ,not if he did. Why does scripture say we are Heirs and Joint Heirs (With) Christ Brother?  These are a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 24 2009,11:42)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and all,I believe that the Son of God is the only begotten Son of God in the fullest way-He actually was born from GOD and the very first to receive life out of all that has received life of any kind natural or eternal.  Every thing else came into being through Him that has been…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 24 2009,01:17)Quote (Lightenup @ April 24 2009,01:19)Is,I don't agree that the term “was” is ever used in a continual sense like normal imperfect tense words because of what studylight said.  I would like to study their source but they do not state one as far as I can see.Okay, so you have studylight and I have Robertson et…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,19:14)Lightenup said:Quote I do not know where you got the idea that I am a Jehovah Witness or go to a JW church.  I have never been inside one.  I attend a large Baptist church of which Kay Arthur and Dr. Spiros Zodhiates are members.  Kay Arthur is regularly on television and traveling around the world with Pr…[Read more]

Gene,He was “made” however a true offspring of GOD would be and it happened before He laid the foundation of the earth. He inherits more than a name. I agree with you in that He receives the inheritance that we are joint heirs with after His ascension to the Father.Take care Gene,Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,14:37)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,All things are possible with GOD except He cannot lie.  There is no such teaching in the entire Bible that says Jesus's “sonship” is just a title.  There is no such teaching in the entire Bible that says GOD cannot reproduce.  If you disagree, what is your proof?Hi Kathi,The Bi…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,15:12)Lightenup said:Quote GOD (the Father) is LIGHTGod (the Son) is the Light from LIGHTKathi,It is ironic that you should say this because the Trinitarian Christmas hymn O Come all ye Faithful says the exact same thing,God of God, Light of light,Lo, He abhors not the virgin's womb.Very God begotten not createdO…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,09:26)Lightenup said:Quote Is,I don't agree that the term “was” is ever used in a continual sense like normal imperfect tense words because of what studylight said.  I would like to study their source but they do not state one as far as I can see.Never-the-less, if it can be used in a continuous sense, the term…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2009,01:43)Hi Kathi, One thing the minds of scholars have been busy with for 1800 years is why the trinity idea must be true.Hi Nick,But then if it weren't for the trinity doctrine we would have all this time on our hands to promote other things. Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,10:02)Lightenup said:Quote I agree that all things IN heaven and ON earth were made through the Son of God and that none of those things came into being apart from the Son of God.  That is where I stand on the matter….The Son of God and the Heavenly Father are already present in the context and so were…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 23 2009,01:25)Hi KathiQuote (Lightenup @ April 23 2009,07:03)Hi Keith,Do we still have a difference of opinion on whether James White was focusing on “was” or “in?”  It was “was” correct?Before Isa 1:18 had posted concerning “Was” I had already started this post and I am just now finishing it. (had to go for…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,09:18)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 23 2009,17:26)Excellent debate, ladies and gentlemen!It was a pleasure to follow.Mandy,What do you mean that it “was” a pleasure to follow? Do you mean that it “was” according to LU or according to Is.1:18? Sorry, I couldn't resist.   thinkerThank you Mandy and thank you Thinker (that…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 23 2009,00:47)Hi Kathi,The only word John could have chosen for “always was” was the one he used. BlessingsIs,I don't agree that the term “was” is ever used in a continual sense like normal imperfect tense words because of what studylight said. I would like to study their source but they do not state one as far as I can…[Read more]