So, Irene, when Georg says “You're too much” what exactly is that supposed to mean? Love,Kathi

Hi Mandy and Irene,Thanks Mandy for your encouraging words.Irene, I have believed that the Son was the firstborn of all creation for the past 16 years. I have tried to make that clear. Sorry but I don't know why you wouldn't know that. You don't believe that He was literally the “firstborn” you believe that He was the first-adopted and…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ May 29 2009,18:00)Quote (Lightenup @ May 30 2009,05:54)Thinker,You seem to gloss over that I believe that the Son has the same divine nature as the Father which I believe came by reproduction since He is called the Son of GOD.  I believe that makes Him, the Son, God to us also along with the Father but at the same time not…[Read more]

Keith and Thinker,You both wrote this apparently that literally the verse should use this word order:Quote John 1:1; “…the Word was with God, and God was the Word”.As far as I learned of the Greek grammar, if two words within a clause are both written in the nominative case, the one with the definite article takes precedence as the subject which…[Read more]

Thinker,You seem to gloss over that I believe that the Son has the same divine nature as the Father which I believe came by reproduction since He is called the Son of GOD. I believe that makes Him, the Son, God to us also along with the Father but at the same time not always existent as the Father alone is which obviously makes the Son not equal…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ May 29 2009,05:40)KathiChildren are the flesh and blood of their parents, genes and all; that not only makes them equal to their parents, but in many cases it makes them taller, smarter, and stronger; in that sense they are not only the parents equal, but better. The Father in heaven has no equal, he is divine, immortal, so would…[Read more]

Hi t8,i would agree with a lot of that too. The Father is GOD without the Son but the Son is not God apart from the Father. IMO I do think that the Father is not a “saving” GOD apart from the Son as in saving us from eternal separation from Him but He (the Father) is GOD apart from the Son. The Father and the Son are both necessary for our…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I understand about the “omni's” being presumptions.  I do believe that the Most High GOD, if not technically omniscient, He would know everything that was possible, more than any other.  He knows the most:) Also, He is the most powerful, and can be wherever He wants to be. LU

Hi Irene,I study mainly with the NASB but I often compare several versions and then do a word study if I think one version is saying a different thing than another one. Many Greek manuscripts have been discovered and more knowledge has been gained since the writings in the KJ Bible. The Holy Spirit is required for gaining understanding. I have…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ May 28 2009,16:15)Lightenup said to Keith:Quote Sorry, but the trinity does not reveal the Jesus that they preached.  The trinity definitely speaks about a different Jesus.  At least, you admit that the trinity came as a later supposed revelation.  Since it is a later “revelation” it was not one that the apostles knew or wr…[Read more]

Hi Keith,I think that you have abilities confused with nature. Nature is something that can be passed on by means of reproduction. Therefore, the nature that you see in the Son is also the nature of the Father. Satan is a liar by nature, God is truth by nature. I believe that the nature of GOD and the Son could simply be the fullness of truth…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ May 28 2009,04:24)KathiWhy does it always say, “I will be his father”?Do you tell people you meet, “I will be the mother of my children?”Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;  He is the beginning of God's…[Read more]

I found it…enjoy!http://www.slideshare.net/lamb_of_god520/red-sea-crossing

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 16 2009,22:31)Quote (t8 @ May 16 2009,21:11)WJ, the Trinity is a doctrine that developed over time and replaced the true foundation of the Church which is that Jesus is the son of the one true God and the messiah of YHWH.Hi t8Yes, I agree that the nature of who and what God is, is being revealed over time.I have much…[Read more]

Thanks t8,Good stuff…it encourages my faith. I got a power point presentation in my email today regarding proof of the Israelites crossing the Red Sea. I don't know how to get it on here. It showed a land bridge in the Red Sea where Moses led the Israelites across and a scuba diver found chariot wheels and horse bones there. They also…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ May 27 2009,15:02)Quote (Lightenup @ May 26 2009,04:08)Hi Georg,Really, when you get down to it, the questions are:1. Can and did GOD reproduce to gain His Son before all things were created? or2. Can and did GOD create His Son before all other things were created?or3. Was the Son eternally generated (always existent in eternity…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2009,01:53)Hi all,Some of my thoughts regarding the nature of GOD as well as the nature of the Son of GOD are as follows:Possibly the nature of both is simply the fullness of grace and truth. Then the fruit that they both share which comes from that nature is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness,…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 25 2009,17:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 25 2009,15:48)Quote (Lightenup @ May 24 2009,21:55)Hi Georg,Interesting thought but I think the angels were created, not begotten and not sharing in the nature of God, they are not the same “kind” as God.  I believe they are created heavenly beings and they were created through…[Read more]

Hi Georg,Really, when you get down to it, the questions are:1. Can and did GOD reproduce to gain His Son before all things were created? or2. Can and did GOD create His Son before all other things were created?or3. Was the Son eternally generated (always existent in eternity past as a Son) as the trinity doctrine states.or4. Was the Son a son by…[Read more]

Hi all,Some of my thoughts regarding the nature of GOD as well as the nature of the Son of GOD are as follows:Possibly the nature of both is simply the fullness of grace and truth. Then the fruit that they both share which comes from that nature is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control.  Maybe…[Read more]