Quote (thethinker @ June 29 2009,18:23)Quote (Lightenup @ June 30 2009,09:54)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ June 29 2009,17:38)I already admitted that the word trinity is not is the Bible. However, you cannot show me a verse either that says the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not parts of one God. So you are basing your beliefs off of…[Read more]

Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ June 29 2009,17:38)I already admitted that the word trinity is not is the Bible. However, you cannot show me a verse either that says the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not parts of one God. So you are basing your beliefs off of interpretation too. So I do not want to hear that I should not interpret or…[Read more]

Hi all,Do not be discouraged when encountering the evil one knowing that greater is He that is in you than He that is in the world.1 John 5:18-2118 We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him. 19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 28 2009,10:38)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2009,04:34)Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 25 2009,06:14)Lightenup:The Truth that I have found is that devils,demons,satan, et.al. are just thought messages against the Truth of God. They are lies and deception and un-truth. These thoughts come to steal the word of Truth from your mind. One…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 28 2009,01:37)Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2009,16:35)Quote (Stu @ June 22 2009,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2009,03:54)Stuart,Are you afraid to watch the video Stu?  It is FREE to view you know…imagine all that info, a 2 1/2 hour video that he could be selling but he isn't.  BTW, he does not want your money It was not my m…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 28 2009,00:54)Quote (thethinker @ June 22 2009,11:03)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2009,09:26)Here is a long message given from a former high priest satanist who is now a born again believer.  It is good to be aware of the schemes of satan.  It is worth watching through to the end.  There is hope and deliverance in the blood of…[Read more]

frankandcathy,So, welcome! Does your name reflect two becoming one flesh? I hope you find what you are looking for here. There are many opinions reflected that will get you thinking or…utterly confuse you, one or the other or both.I think that the relationship of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is very simple:The Father always…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 22 2009,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2009,03:54)Stuart,Are you afraid to watch the video Stu?  It is FREE to view you know…imagine all that info, a 2 1/2 hour video that he could be selling but he isn't.  BTW, he does not want your money It was not my money I was thinking of.  In any case, 2 1/2 hours??  Who would ser…[Read more]

Hi Stu,I'm now at 1:10:58. I'll comment when I've drudged through my end of the bargain. Back to you LU

Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,18:06)Lightenup said:Quote What does the “word” mean?  What does the word represent? The whole idea about “eternal word” is nonsense.  What the word “word” represents is what is with God and what the word in the beginning represents is what was God. IMOKathi,Have it your way. From now on I will say, “The Being t…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,18:10)WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiDo you see Jesus name or any reference to the Son in Proverbs 8?Ambiguous territory!In Proverbs 8 wisdom is personified in the feminine gender (vs.1). The book was written in poetic form and it simply means that God in His wisdom created all…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,18:06)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,18:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,17:56)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,17:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,16:31)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,13:17)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,13:06)WorshipingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiSo you think that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,18:02)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,17:48)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,17:18)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and WJ,And I thought that you guys say that the “word” submitted to the Father and became a servant.  You say that it was an “eternal word” that existed before it became flesh.But that would make…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,17:56)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,17:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,16:31)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,13:17)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,13:06)WorshipingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiSo you think that invalidates John 1:1-3?Your argument is a red herring and leaves out the fact that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,17:46)Quote (Cindy @ June 25 2009,17:28)W.J.  I do believe that John 1:1 is the Word that was with God.  However I do not believe that He always existed.  Col. 1:15 says that He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.Rev. 3:14 …” These things says the Amen, the Faithful and Tr…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,17:18)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and WJ,And I thought that you guys say that the “word” submitted to the Father and became a servant.  You say that it was an “eternal word” that existed before it became flesh.But that would make no sense since a word cannot submit or not submit, it is just an expression of a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,16:31)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,13:17)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,13:06)WorshipingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiSo you think that invalidates John 1:1-3?Your argument is a red herring and leaves out the fact that Jesus who was in very nature God left his place of Glory and submitted to the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,15:47)WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Please try real hard not to read into the scriptures with your Henotheistic glasses on please.“HenotheismHenotheists recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God.  They choose one aspect to worship without…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,13:06)WorshipingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiSo you think that invalidates John 1:1-3?Your argument is a red herring and leaves out the fact that Jesus who was in very nature God left his place of Glory and submitted to the Father by becoming a servant through taking on the likeness of sinful flesh and being…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,11:38)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2009,11:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2009,02:09)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2009,21:14)Keith and Bo,Who is the “I” in this passage.  If it is the Son and the Son is God replace the I with “God” and continue to read.Rev 3:1212 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar…[Read more]