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Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:19)Isaiah 43:6-8 (Young's Literal Translation) 6I am saying to the north, `Give up,' And to the south, `Restrain not.' Bring in My sons from afar, And My daughters from the end of the earth. 7Every one who is called by My name, Even for My honour I have created him, I have formed him, yea, I have made him.This…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Nick,I would think that He was continually growing in wisdom since His birth from Mary. The power that He needed to do His 3 1/2 years of ministry was probably given to Him at the Jordan. He continued to be taught what to say and what to do after the Jordan just like before the Jordan. IMOLU
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,22:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,14:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Hi Nick,I would say that He had to be taught, not re-taught. Wouldn't you say that a renewed mind is one that had to be re-taught? Jesus was taught properly about God right from His infancy as a man as far as I can see…no need to be re-taught/renewed.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God and serve Him only then I would also worship His Son as an expression of my…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Theories in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 16 years, 10 months ago
Mandy,You are listening to the discourager. Take every thought captive and cling to the thoughts that give love, joy, peace. Always turn the thoughts off that lead to destruction…that is never from God.Here is an interview that led me to the book “How to Hear God's Voice” by Mark and Patti Virkler:http://www.sidroth.org/site….ctrl=-1I have…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 26 2009,13:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)I'm going with the literal son begotten before creation theory because that is what I believe God showed me.Hi Kathi,And I am quite certain that God showed me something entirely different……Hmmmm. This always concerns me when I hear people say that “God showed” them…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mandy,I think that I have plopped my ideas on this topic here before but I will reiterate what I think now because you asked me to. I believe that the human body of Jesus came from a supernatural fertilzation of Mary's egg by the power of the Most High God through His Spirit. She was the Son of Man's biological mother but not the biological…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God and serve Him only then I would also worship His Son as an expression of my worship to the Father. Why Bo, do you think that it is requested of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 26 2009,00:50)Hi LU, He was conceived in Mary of the Spirit and a son to Joseph by adoption?So the expression of the Spirit of God in Christ and his brothers is only part of the nature of God? But the fullness of the Spirit was given to himNick,Nature is not an expression. The expression of love, joy, peace, etc. comes…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Nick,The typical offspring has two parents. The Only Begotten Son of God only had a Father. As a man He still had the Father but also an earthly mother and step father, but you knew that didn't you.The fruit of the Spirit of God is not His nature but the kind of nature He has does produce the fruit…love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,23:37)Hi LU, So none of the miracles and anointed words were of him but it was all of God within him as Spirit.So he was not God on earth?Hi Nick,You asked:Quote So none of the miracles and anointed words were of him but it was all of God within him as Spirit.He did perform the miracles but not without the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Nick,I think that the only begotten Son had supernatural powers and that He gave them up to come as the baby Jesus. As a man, the Son did not have special powers before He was anointed at the Jordan as far as I can tell.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God and serve Him only then I would also worship His Son as an expression of my worship to the Father. Why Bo, do you think that it is requested of the angels to worship the Son but it would be blaspheme for man to worship the Son?Don't…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Mandy,Jesus wouldn't have been a Jew had it not been for Mary…she gets credit for that also and for carrying Him in her womb and later on her hip, feeding Him, training Him in many ways, giving Him direction and for nurturing Him, for being their for Him when He was at His weakest, etc. A surrogate doesn't do all that, only a biological…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,20:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,10:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,17:29)Hi LU, We can be given the nature of God as the Spirit brings that fruitJesus was anointed with the Holy spirit and power But you think Jesus was always anointed in the Spirit of God and the Jordan was just for show?Only after that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 25 2009,20:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,09:12)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 25 2009,14:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,04:25)Hi Bo,Jesus is God, the begotten God. He has a God (His and our Father) from whom we get the Holy Spirit as it pours out through His Son…it is Jesus's God that we dare not blaspheme. As I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (georg @ Oct. 25 2009,18:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,10:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,17:29)Hi LU, We can be given the nature of God as the Spirit brings that fruitJesus was anointed with the Holy spirit and power But you think Jesus was always anointed in the Spirit of God and the Jordan was just for show?Only after that is he…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,17:29)Hi LU, We can be given the nature of God as the Spirit brings that fruitJesus was anointed with the Holy spirit and power But you think Jesus was always anointed in the Spirit of God and the Jordan was just for show?Only after that is he said to be FULL OF the Spirit.Hi Nick,I do not think that Jesus was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 25 2009,14:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,04:25)Hi Bo,Jesus is God, the begotten God. He has a God (His and our Father) from whom we get the Holy Spirit as it pours out through His Son…it is Jesus's God that we dare not blaspheme. As I see it. They are one in unity.God bless, KathiI understand what you are s…[Read more]
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