Gene,

18The Jews then said to Him, “What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?” 19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21But He was speaking of the temple of His body.…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

I believe that it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet who wrote the words down,  which shows the existence of Christ in the OT.

Berean,

You said:

Only GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN PERSON.

Is Jesus the true God in person who will inherit the nations?

Hi Gene,

Yes, it is about a future event. My question was…who said the prophesy? Who said:

“I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

Who is the I, Me, and the You? And was that prophesy told in the OT or not?

Thanks, LU

Gene (posted a third time without your reply, btw.),

Who is speaking in this passage:

7I will proclaim the decree

spoken to Me by the LORD:

“You are My Son;

today I have become Your Father.

Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?

Please answer both of those questions Gene.

Blessings, LU

Proclaimer:

You said:

If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?

The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.

Jesus is the firstborn from the dead and there are many to follow that act of being begotten from…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You said:

The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.

Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

You quoted this:

Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out. We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our e…

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Gene (posted a second time),

Who is speaking in this passage:

7I will proclaim the decree

spoken to Me by the LORD:

“You are My Son;

today I have become Your Father.

Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?

Please answer both of those questions Gene.

Blessings, LU

Gene,

Who is speaking in this passage:

7I will proclaim the decree

spoken to Me by the LORD:

“You are My Son;

today I have become Your Father.c

8Ask Me, and I will make the nations Your inheritance,

the ends of the earth Your possession.

9You will break themd with an iron scepter;

You will shatter them like pottery.”

Was that spo…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

You asked:

So who is the first type then? The first Son?

Adam is the first son that human sons are modeled after.

Thank you Carmel and Proclaimer. Surgery was a success, I’m thankful that it is over. Now to help him recover. It is amazing what they can do now medically. I’m so grateful for medical personnel!! Last year I had the blockage, 90%, and just needed a stent put in. It made a world of difference.

Blessings, LU

Happy New Year to you all! I’m ending 2022 in the hospital with my husband who will be having a quadruple bypass in a few hours. 2023 is going to start with a 4 month recovery. Two days ago we didn’t know this would be the plan. Thanks to  the LORD for making us aware of 95% and 70% blockage in dangerous places! Trusting our Father and His Only…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Thank you for your answer. Please answer this now that you have had more time to think about it:

I hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.

Do you agree Berean?

You’re welcome Miia.

Have a great 2023!

Peace, LU

Hi Carmel,

I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.

Gene,

God is united to His Son, they do the God stuff together. The Father sees Him and His Son as one God in the fullest sense who is both God of gods and Lord of lords named Yahweh. Two different persons acting as one, interdependently to do the God stuff. They are God alone, no one besides them.

Proclaimer,

You said:

But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.

We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our existence is tied up in T…

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Proclaimer,

You said:

I can’t provide a source for prototype as I wrongly assumed it was rooted in the word for firstborn despite both having the same root ‘proto’.

That said, I stll believe that he is the prototype. He is the ‘first type’, that is, the first Son. Those born from above will be like him. The same type of being. The original…

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Berean,

Yes, we are making progress 🙂

You said:

The Son has accepted that everything be given into his hands for the creation of the universe, for the plan of redemption and for judgment.
THE SON IS WORTHY OF ALL THESE TITLES MENTIONED IN ISAIAH
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us, and dominion will rest on his shoulder, and he will…

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