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    I have not judged you Keith. I don't agree with the church's having an annual celebration on halloween. If that is what you call “judging” you then I disagree and you are taking it too personally. Can I not disagree with the annual celebration on halloween without your feeling judged? I never said that you can't celebrate on halloween by…[Read more]

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    Keith,I am obeying my conscience by posting here. I have never judged you or what you do not do. I have an opinon that it would have been better to not have an annual event on halloween because it encouraged my kids to celebrate like non-believers…dressing up and going from house to house thinking that it's not harmful. My opinion is that it…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 29 2009,12:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 29 2009,12:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2009,12:33)Hello all,Here is a list of what days witches celebrate.  Many churches celebrate Oct. 31 which is in this list but they put their own spin on it.  So, should the churches celebrate this at all?  Should the churches as…[Read more]

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    Ok Keith, then teach it without costumes and candy and see how well that goes over. You do not celebrate halloween but you celebrate on halloween. Is that what you are saying? The church holds an annual celebration on halloween to not celebrate halloween? It looks like celebrating halloween to everyone else, if your truthful. IMOKathi

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    Hello all,Here is a list of what days witches celebrate. Many churches celebrate Oct. 31 which is in this list but they put their own spin on it. So, should the churches celebrate this at all? Should the churches ask forgiveness for celebrating this day? If not, why not celebrate all the witches “Sabbats?”Also, see that Dec. 25th does not fall…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 29 2009,00:30)Hi LU, So we should not follow Jesus on this one but worship him as well as his Father/God?Nick,We worship him as we follow Him. His kingdom is eternal. Are you going to also have your own eternal kingdom? Or are you going to be in someone else's kingdom?LU

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    Since you are a vinedresser yourself, Nick, you ought to know :;): LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Thanks Bo for your opinion. I do disagree that the Son was created though. All created things have a different nature from their creator. A man has the nature of man, a tree has the nature of a tree, etc. The Son however has a divine nature. We know that someone that is begotten receives the nature of who beget him. Does the Qua'ran teach…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 28 2009,21:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2009,12:58)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,12:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,05:03)Hi WJ, You know how we in Christ are meant to do everything in his name then in whose name do you preferentially worship the Son of God?You don't worship Jesus in anyone's name.You worship The…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 28 2009,21:11)Hi LU, So it would be like the vine being worshiped by the branch? The Head worshiped by the toe?LOL Nick…”the head worshiped by the toe?” Where do you come up with this stuff? BTW the “branch” does depend totally on the vine. the branch can't exist if it weren't for the action of the vine. Cling to…[Read more]

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    Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,12:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,05:03)Hi WJ, You know how we in Christ are meant to do everything in his name then in whose name do you preferentially worship the Son of God?You don't worship Jesus in anyone's name.You worship The Father in Jesus' Name.Jesus is the bridge from Mankind to YHWH…you must cross…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Bo,You said:Quote The “Powers of God” just like Elohim. In Fact The creative Spirit that proceeds from God but that is not God is exactly how Jesus was created and eventually was made manifest as flesh.In other words the Same creative Spirit that God used to create everything else, that Spirit became Flesh but it is important to understand that…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 27 2009,04:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,15:59)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,15:08)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,22:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,14:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26…[Read more]

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    Thanks Rokkaman,Interesting how I had a similar “lightbulb” moment. So, what was it that you read or someone taught you that brought that “light bulb moment?”We now have very similar understandings and that is remarkable. The only difference that I see is that you think Jesus was created and I say He was begotten-not created.God bless,Kathi

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    For Rokkaman :;):

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,11:52)Let it be clear when you use the term “God”Do you mean YHWH, the supreme being of all things.Or title as in God of…to show supreme authority.Jesus is definately God of all things, but he is not YHWH the supreme being.If you use God exclusively for the Supreme being, then you cannot use it in reference with…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:28)Revelation 10:6 (King James Version)6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: Revelation 4:10-11 (King James…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,15:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:19)Isaiah 43:6-8 (Young's Literal Translation) 6I am saying to the north, `Give up,' And to the south, `Restrain not.' Bring in My sons from afar, And My daughters from the end of the earth. 7Every one who is called by My name, Even…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,15:08)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,22:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,14:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible…[Read more]

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