Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,22:14)Kathi said:Quote The angel said that he would be called the Son of God in the future sense, I'm fine with that, but that does not mean that He wasn't the Son of God from the beginning.TO ALL:Kathi ignores that the scripture EXPRESSLY declares that Christ was begotten as Son at His exaltation. It was in…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2010,21:30)and LU the quote you have respond to was not mine,so i wanted to clarify it.do not mix quotes and names.thank youterraricca,Please show me where I mixed quotes and names. I don't know what you are talking about. Thanks,Kathi

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 18 2010,09:05)Terra and Lu,I thank you both for your input and feedback.Like I said, everyone's theory is possible if it is also plausible – at the end of any discussion there will be agreement and disagreement on all or some part of the issue.Perhaps this is just one of those Faith issue. Certainly, I know that some things…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2010,19:25)LUyou do not deal with God the way you deal with man ,God is a spirit and so his powers are spirit,we do not understand this and the scriptures do not reveal this,so if we say God the father total and full might and the son mighty god over all what as been create sins and through him, but God the father is…[Read more]

Hi Keith,I have not scrapped my theory.  I believe that the Son of God was a person from His beginning.  I don't believe He had a created beginning, nor an uncreated beginning, but He likely had a beginning.The angel said that he would be called the Son of God in the future sense, I'm fine with that, but that does not mean that He wasn't the Son o…[Read more]

Irene,Isn't the important thing that they do worship whether in front of the cross or not?  Keep the main thing, the main thing…they are worshipping God at the foot of a cross…Mary did also.  They are not worshipping a cross…that to me is ridiculous.

Good advice terraricca,If you do not have enough faith that you will not make an idol out of a piece of cross-shaped metal then ask God to help you overcome your weakness for your idea of God is very small. Ask yourself if you have thoughts of condemnation towards those who wear crosses. That would be flesh and legalism maybe a religious spirit…[Read more]

Keith,Man begets a little man is an extrabiblical termAnimal begets little animal is an extrabiblical termIf man beget a grown man…ouch is all I have to say about that.So God beget God is just as logical as man begets man.The word was made flesh…not the word was made a son.If you can't see the Son as being a person before Mary then I see your…[Read more]

Terraricca,The cross symbol reminds some people of something spiritual and important and can help people remember to walk in the spirit. Sometimes men carry a cross in their pocket to help them when they are tempted with lust to remember to walk in the spirit instead of the flesh. If it doesn't edify you to see a cross then I'm sorry but I think…[Read more]

I think that satan would love for us not to wear a cross as a remembrance because that is where he was defeated and faced a future of eternal punishment.Eph 2:14-1614 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, 15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 17 2010,09:55)Terra,What you say could be me speaking also. Ask me if I am thrilled…?Lu, also but this bit … Like Terra, I'm not so sure.By coincident … I was looking into this matter earlier this morning.Question 1: By the Scriptures – at what point or time was Jesus 'Begotten'?Question 2: What is the meaning of the…[Read more]

Irene,I think that is probably an act of respect for Christ dying on the cross. I don't believe that the catholics pray to the cross, do they?Love,Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2010,00:29)LUi do not understand God beget God.? were you want to go with this???terraricca,Is it hard for you to understand these:Man begets manAnimal begets animalIf that is not hard for you to understand, then why is it hard for you to understand:God begets godMaybe you haven't considered the word “God/god” as a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2010,01:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 16 2010,19:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2010,01:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,21:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,13:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,13:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:25)Hi, Does any…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 17 2010,06:32)Kathi said:Quote …but I certainly do think it is possible for the Most High God to have a true offspring which comes from Himself so I have no problem with the term monogenes theos used in John 1:18 to be translated as “only begotten God” as the NASB translates it.  But you already know that. The sun begets…[Read more]

Welcome to HN,I don't see the cross as a tool by which people died but more of an altar upon which Jesus was sacrificed.  The Romans and Jews though of Jesus's death as a crucifixion but ultimately, it was Jesus's very Father and God that sent His Son to die as a sacrifice.  In the Old Testament, God ordered some altars to be built as a place to s…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2010,23:27)LUthe scriptures says “no man can see God and live”this is a true statement .Christ says “no one as seen the father but the Son” this is a true statement.God the Father is an Spirit, this is a true statement.God is HOLY .this is a true statement.Only God is GOOD, this is a true statementthe ways of God are…[Read more]

terraricca,You misunderstood my comment. No where did I say that the Son was God the Father, in fact, I said that the Son was not the Most High God (the Father).I don't think that one has to be a trinitarian to believe that the Son is God. God is what would be begotten of a Father that was and is God. He would not be anything but what He was…[Read more]

Good conversation going terraricca and JustAskin! I agree with much of what you both have said except for one particular thing. I see that Jesus, because He was begotten of the Most High God, can indeed be God, just not the “Most High God.” What else would the Most High God beget? Would that threaten the fact of there being one God? Well, not…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2010,01:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,21:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,13:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,13:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:25)Hi, Does any bible translate MONOGENES, relating to Jesus, as ONLY? Why would you WJ and TT?Most…[Read more]