Welcome mikeboll,I also asked a question which led me away from the trinity doctrine. Many blessings on your search here.Enjoy,Kathi/LU/Lightenup

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 24 2010,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 24 2010,15:30)JustAskin,Deut 6:13-1513 “You shall fear only the Lord your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name. 14 “You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, 15 for the Lord your God in the midst of you is a jealous God;…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 24 2010,04:27)katjo,Do I serve my family, 'Yes', I provide a house and home, food, comforts, ethical and spiritual guidance, a listening ear, loving chastisement – and an allowance of boundary pushing so that they can live in this world (After all, it will be their own life that is judge – I cannot Save them, only provide…[Read more]

JustAskin,Deut 6:13-1513 “You shall fear only the Lord your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name. 14 “You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, 15 for the Lord your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; otherwise the anger of the Lord your God will be kindled against you, and He will wipe…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 23 2010,20:00)LU,What is it you are asking?Is there still confusion about the difference between WORSHIP and all other forms of veneration?JustAskin,It is really a simple question: Do you serve your family? Yes or NoKathi

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 23 2010,18:31)LU,Jesus gave an explicit example – and for no simple reason, He knew people would as the same question.He said ' You Shall Worship the Lord (God the Father) and Him only Shall you serve'The word “Shall” is a directive, equivalent to an order, something that is not desputable.So, No, I don't think God would be…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 23 2010,16:50)LU,Your example is fine and true except for one thing:Honor and Worship are not the same things and you have mistakenly mixed up the two.When one Worships one effectively offers oneself, or a precious belonging (a Sacrifice) to the one being Worshipped.When one worships an idol one is offering up one's soul to…[Read more]

JustAskin,I understand your point about our command to worship the Lord our God and serve Him only. I am going to try to explain how you would be doing that even while worshipping His Son.This is an illustration, not perfect but I hope it will help:Let's say there is a young girl and she has only one parent still alive, her father. And let's say…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,09:54)One of the major problems seems to be that people will read something and extract those bits that they WANT to say what they WANT to think:Quote Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying,…[Read more]

Thinker,Did Jesus also refer to himself as the “High Priest” before he was “installed?” I can't recall that? Dod He go around saying “I am the High Priest?”I believe the real meaning of “today” that you are referring to is the day of His resurrection. I have already told you that. The Son of God as the monogenes theos has no record of a…[Read more]

Impressive Keith…thank you! Kathi

No Thinker, I do not say that because I feel like you have raked me over the coals…hardly…dream on. But that statement that you made about the coals is a perfect example of you not taking words for their real meaning but twisting them to fit your arrogant perceptions. Thus, based on my experience with you, I have noticed that you want to…[Read more]

Thinker,Maybe someone will come along that is willing to waste their time with you arguing…I choose to spend my time more effectively and hopefully more wisely towards a more deserving discourse.

Thinker,Apparently you can't say what Peter said because Peter was speaking in present tense, not future tense which your lofty opinion would require.Matt 16:15-1715 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,12:24)hi LUyou right ,about the worship of Christ ,but he is worshiping his father so in a sense we worshiping the father through him.terraricca,Again, I agree with you…we worship Christ because we worship the Father and because Christ is worthy of our worship.God bless,Kathi

Hmmmm…it does clearly include mankind here as giving worship to the Lamb too, and btw, that “Lamb” is Christ.Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2010,20:48)KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Jan. 18 2010,19:17)A begotten God can't be the source of Himself and therefore…not the source of all things, nor always existent and not equal to the Father who is the source of all things and self-existent.  That doesn't make Him less than 100% God, it just does not make Him…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,00:04)LUthis is what i say;we could say that God the Father totally mighty and the son mighty god over all what as been created through him and for him, but Got the father is God over all things included the son.is this better terraricca,I got it…thank you! I agree.

TerrariccaForgiven…no big deal

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2010,20:51)Group: MembersPosts: 1251Joined: Oct. 2009  Posted: Jan. 19 2010,11:25  ——————————————————————————–LUyou do not deal with God the way you deal with man ,God is a spirit, and so his powers are spirit,we do not understand this, and the scriptures do not r…[Read more]