Keith,You said in regards to this verse:Heb 1:8-128 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. 9 “YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS.” 10 And, “YOU, LORD, IN THE…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 29 2010,17:42)Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 30 2010,09:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 30 2010,08:50)Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of God.Also, if Jesus was merely proclaimed by God to be the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2010,17:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2010,17:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2010,17:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2010,16:50)Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 29 2010,17:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 30 2010,08:50)Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of God.Also, if Jesus was merely proclaimed by God to be the Son of God then He would be one son…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 29 2010,17:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2010,16:50)Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of God.Also, if Jesus was merely proclaimed by God to be the Son of God then He would be…[Read more]

Ok, my opinion on this mess is, there wouldn't be so much confusion if the active voice of the Greek was understood by those who do not believe in the pre-existence of the Son of God.Also, if Jesus was merely proclaimed by God to be the Son of God then He would be one son of many and not the Only Begotten Son.Kathi

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 27 2010,09:44)LU,I may concur – but it still says “Him” not “Them”. Can it be explained why this is?Does the sentence read right: “They worshiped Him “Hi JustAskin,You asked why it says “Him” and not “them.” I think that it doesn't say either one since it is not in the Greek in the Nestle. The words following “worshiped”…[Read more]

JustAskin,I stopped at v.13 because you focus on v. 14 and seem to miss that what they are doing in v. 13 is worship. Verse 14 does not include the words “him that liveth for ever and ever” in most translations because it is not in the Greek text (Nestle).Kathi

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 22 2010,13:21)Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,09:54)One of the major problems seems to be that people will read something and extract those bits that they WANT to say what they WANT to think:Quote Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 25 2010,16:16)Hi LU, So this description of the man Melchizedek alludes to his shadowy history in scripture. He is indeed a priest forever like the Son of God.Nick,The priesthood is not the only thing they have in common.  Someone recently told me that possibly Mel was an angel and that is why no geneology or end of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 25 2010,16:02)Hi LU, WE do not have several gods. For us there is ONE GOD, the Father.We have unity in the kingdom by the same Spirit Jesus shared with God.Jn17, Eph3, 1Cor12.Nick,I think that it comes down to semantics and context and knowing that the Son of God was given credit for a part in creation and that the Father…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 25 2010,16:06)LU,You can't CREATE a God – There can only be ONE God – ever?Anything that is not “THE GOD” is not a GOD.The term “”God” is a title for the Highest. How can there be Two or More Highest?”god” can be any number of entities – So, yes, Jesus can be 'a god' but not 'a GOD' nor 'a God'.Also, since his Father is…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,15:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 26 2010,05:23)Whether you call the son of God “God” or not, I don't think anyone should say that He is not called God at all, and since He is called God by His Father, how is it that anyone dare say that He is not God in some sense of the word.  Monogenes theos (John 1:18 NASB) is the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 24 2010,17:09)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 24 2010,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 24 2010,15:30)JustAskin,Deut 6:13-1513 “You shall fear only the Lord your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name. 14 “You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, 15 for the Lord your God in the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 25 2010,12:08)Hi All,Can anyone explain to me how it is that God says “Let US create Man” and “Let US go down and scatter them” but then says “I, the Lord am ONE” (and other similar over and over in the old testament)Surely he should then have said: “WE ARE WHO WE ARE” and “We, the LORD are One”? and “Beside US, there is no…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,02:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 17 2010,23:37)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2010,00:29)LUi do not understand God beget God.? were you want to go with this???terraricca,Is it hard for you to understand these:Man begets manAnimal begets animalIf that is not hard for you to understand, then why is it hard for you to…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,01:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 17 2010,14:47)terraricca,You misunderstood my comment.  No where did I say that the Son was God the Father, in fact, I said that the Son was not the Most High God (the Father).I don't think that one has to be a trinitarian to believe that the Son is God.  God is what would be begotten o…[Read more]

JustAskin,I agree that it could be wrong to worship Jesus is that is the only one worshipped but if you realize that Jesus has a Father and that you know the Father and the Son, then there is no way that you could only worship Jesus because you would know that there was someone even higher than Him.Can't you see that not only it can be wrong, it…[Read more]

Hello,I do believe that the fact that the Son of God has the same nature as the Father, that qualifies Him to be called a god. Since He has angels, a kingdom, followers, authority over all of that to even forgive and judge, perfect love and obedience to the Father, that would make Him not only a god but His follower's God. And His God would be…[Read more]

JustAskin,I agree about semantics and context in regards to the term 'serving' and I think also in the term 'worship.'I do believe we are totally fine to worship Jesus as God since He is God's Son who has the divine nature and authority over us and to whom we owe our eternal life and to worship the Most High God as the Father who always existed…[Read more]