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Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,It is written. Rest.
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2010,22:27)Hi LU, So you can support your claim by his words that we should worship him or is this just opinion?Nick,I support my claim by learning from His disciples that knew Him the best. Do you not learn from the disciples? Does Jesus ever say to His apostles or disciples not to worship Him…can you show me one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2010,22:23)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 12 2010,13:59)Nick,From Paul, an apostle about Christ:2:8 He humbled himself,by becoming obedient to the point of death– even death on a cross!2:9 As a result God exalted himand gave him the namethat is above every name,2:10 so that at the name of Jesusevery knee will bow– in heaven and on…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,He would prefer both
It doesn't have to be a choice of one over the other.Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,Change paths…join Peter and the disciples who worship the Father and the Son. They would welcome you with open arms.
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2010,21:44)Hi LU, The popularity of paths is no proof of their authenticity but suggests the opposite. The narrow path is wiser.Nick,Would you think that there are more people in the world that do NOT worship the Father and the Son than those that do. I would say that the narrow pathers worship the Father AND the Son.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,From Paul, an apostle about Christ:2:8 He humbled himself,by becoming obedient to the point of death– even death on a cross!2:9 As a result God exalted himand gave him the namethat is above every name,2:10 so that at the name of Jesusevery knee will bow– in heaven and on earth and under the earth –2:11 and every tongue confessthat Jesus Chris…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2010,21:38)Hi LU, The Spirit speaks according to Scripture.We are not to be sole agents. Branches off the vine are useless.Nick,Exactly! Many worship the Father and the Son. Maaaaaany!
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,Peter is the disciple that Christ spoke about here: 16:15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16:16 Simon Peter answered, 19 “You are the Christ, 20 the Son of the living God.” 16:17 And Jesus answered him, 21 “You are blessed, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood 22 did not reveal this to you, but my Father in heaven…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
So let God set you free from your traditions Nick. Live by the Spirit. Paul's master became man but is much more than man at the same time.
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2010,21:08)Hi LU,Do you not accept that Paul and his words were of God? What of the other apostles?Yes, I accept that Paul and his words were of God. Do you not accept that the disciples worship towards the Son…as the Son was of God?
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2010,21:02)Hi LU, Reliance on personal inspiration alone we are also warned about in Col2.Should we not check our steps as we walk?Nick,Hellooooo! Did you not read the scriptures that demonstrated disciples worshiping the Son and the Son accepted that and did not prohibit that. That happened more than once. That's…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Well, Nick, show me a verse where Jesus specifically taught that His disciples should speak in tongues. Show me where either the Father or the Son taught us to speak in tongues. Did you not learn of that from a man named Paul and not Jesus? Are you following man then and not the teachings of Jesus when you speak in tongues?
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,I gave you scriptures and you blow them off as if Christ was not aware that His followers were worshiping Him and then you come up with the idea of worshiping Him is no where in the Bible. It is just something I made up??? Wow! Christ did not teach His virgin birth but you believe that don't you? Christ didn't teach other things as well…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Because He is our Master!
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
I gave you several SCRIPTURES Nick, of examples of worship to the Son.
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,Jesus wouldn't be the one to tell us to worship Him. That would be the Father's job through His Spirit within us.
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Ya know what Nick,I don't think God wants us to worship as if we were following a command but instead, worship the Father and the Son by being led of our Spirit…a worship from a true heart towards the Father and the Son. It isn't so much taught as it is a natural expression of what is within our hearts towards our Godhead.
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Nick,We are not united with the Son as a fellow man, we are united IN the Son. Do you believe that before the Pentecost, the Son of God was ignorant? He would not accept worship as the Son of God before Pentecost or any time unless it were a glory to His Father…I am positive of that. I am also positive that He received worship from His…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Do you ever wonder why Jesus did not worship himself? He was not His own God…He was not His own source. OUR situation is different than Him, He only had the Father as His head. We have the Father AND the Son as our head. The Pharisees did not recognize the Son as their head and worshipped only the Father as well. So do we follow the…[Read more]
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