Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 18 2010,13:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 19 2010,04:45)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 18 2010,12:38)Kathi said:Quote If some young man said that he was the son of the king, he would be making himself out to be equal to royalty, but he would not be saying that he was equal to the king.  The son and the king are both equal to being…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 18 2010,13:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2010,12:39)In the case of God, if the father was always existent and the son wasn't, then becoming always existent could never be achieved by the son, and therefore could never make them able to be equal.KathiThat of course is a big if and is not proven in scriptures!This is…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 18 2010,12:38)Kathi said:Quote If some young man said that he was the son of the king, he would be making himself out to be equal to royalty, but he would not be saying that he was equal to the king.  The son and the king are both equal to being royalty, but not equally king.  Get itThen why did Jesus ride into Jerusalem a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 18 2010,12:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2010,11:58)As far as the Pharisees thinking that Jesus was making Himself out to be equal to God because He said that He was the Son of God, well, think about this:If some young man said that he was the son of the king, he would be making himself out to be equal to royalty,…[Read more]

As far as the Pharisees thinking that Jesus was making Himself out to be equal to God because He said that He was the Son of God, well, think about this:If some young man said that he was the son of the king, he would be making himself out to be equal to royalty, but he would not be saying that he was equal to the king. The son and the king are…[Read more]

Well,I think there is another option to a 3 in 1 Godhead.  I think that the wording is not correct in the trinity doctrine.  I could accept a doctrine of the Godhead if it stated that there are two persons in the one Godhead, the Father and the Son united by the Spirit of the Father, not equal, not co-eternal.  The Father always existing, the So…[Read more]

Wow, I just now saw this reference of Jesus as “the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets. Another verse referring to Jesus as God. Compare these two passages:Quote Rev 22:66 And he said to me, “These words are faithful and true”; and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent His(Jesus) angel to show to His(Jesus)…[Read more]

Nick,Doesn't scripture say that the Son of God is seated on His throne? Do you think that you are going to be equal to Christ, is Christ just another saint in heaven?

Nick,Col 3:13 Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.NASUThis does not say what you just said. We are not seated at the right hand of God in the future. That place is for Christ. We will not be on the throne.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2010,22:08)Hi LU, If you become one with the Son of God you will share everything he is.But we will not worship you.Nick,No, I won't share everything He is. Will I have an eternal throne? Will I have anyone calling me worthy of opening the scroll? Will I be the gate? Will I be the shepherd? Will I be the way, the…[Read more]

Nick,I could be adopted into the royal family and become royalty that way, but, I would never be royalty by original flesh of the king's flesh, blood of his blood. See the difference. I will still get an inheritance but can never be royalty by original birth.

Hello,Sometimes this comparison comes to my mind and maybe it would help now.This is not a perfect apples to apples comparison so just try to get the gist of it.Think of being deity like being royalty, ya know, like some countries have the royal family.If you are the king in this royal family and you have an only child, a boy, the son would also…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 17 2010,01:15)Kathi!  I have thought about this some time ago.  I worship God the Father through Jesus Christ who is our Mediator to do so.  When Scriptures that you pointed out say in John 9:38  what I think  happened there is that He said :”Lord I believe and then “He worshipped Him.  Could it be that He still was worsh…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2010,16:44)Hi LU, This demigod status men ascribe to Jesus can prevent them from letting him save them. Instead of worshiping him we should listen to him and obey his simple commands.Nick,First of all, I do not teach a demigod. Jesus is fully God as the Son of God. He is not a demigod as the Son of God. Maybe you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2010,16:41)Hi LU,We agree that he was a servant of the one true God.Nick,That we can agree on but that brings up a question that I would like to ask you.Are you a servant of the one true God? If yes, then do you think that you are or can be equal to Jesus?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2010,14:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2010,10:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2010,17:00)Hi lU, Whatever plants not planted by my Father will be pulled out. One of Satan's favourite deceptions is that Jesus is another god who came to seek worship.So buildings fill every town with the confused worshipping him and other…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 11 2010,17:50)Nick,We are not united with the Son as a fellow man, we are united IN the Son.  Do you believe that before the Pentecost, the Son of God was ignorant?  He would not accept worship as the Son of God before Pentecost or any time unless it were a glory to His Father…I am positive of that.  I am also positive th…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 11 2010,21:59)Nick,From Paul, an apostle about Christ:2:8 He humbled himself,by becoming obedient to the point of death– even death on a cross!2:9 As a result God exalted himand gave him the namethat is above every name,2:10 so that at the name of Jesusevery knee will bow– in heaven and on earth and under the earth –2:…[Read more]

So, there are no scriptures against the worship of Jesus as the Son of God.  Nothing in the whole Bible that says that the Father is against worship of His Son.  No reproof is given for those who worship the Son of God in the scriptures and I will not receive  this poor counsel. I will continue to exalt the Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God wh…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2010,18:31)Hi Kathi,I think 1 Cor. 8:5-6 sums it up pretty good.  “…yet for us there is only ONE GOD, THE FATHER…..and there is only ONE LORD, JESUS CHRIST…”Paul didn't say one God, the father and son combo.  Or the father, son and spirit trio.Clear enough?Hi Mike,The Bible says to “Believe in God, believe also i…[Read more]