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Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,00:47)KathiI looked through that, and did not realised what you said.And you know what? I was wrong in answering you when I said the scriptures “DO” say that; THEY DO NOT SAY THAT, they do not say “only begotten god”, they say “SON”, only begotten SON, first born.I been looking at the computer to long.But you did…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,00:27)KathiWhat is the nature of God?Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. What is the nature of angels? are they not spirit?Hbr 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. The seed/nature of Abraham, fl…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,21:04)To whoever is interestedJhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. If Jesus was God, this scripture would not be true.Jesus is the only begotten SON of God, not the only begotten god. Why does it say “ONLY” begotten? Col.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,23:36)Hi LU, He is like his Father because his Father was in him speaking and doing the miraculous works.Do you think he was another God doing his own miracles?Nick,He is not “another” God. He is an only Begotten God. An “only” cannot be an “another.” He did nothing on His own initiative. The Father is not a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2010,22:28)LU Posted: Feb. 28 2010,12:05 ——————————————————————————–Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2010,19:47) LUA couple of time, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son.So, we know that the NET translators concluded that the term in John 1:18 is “God” and not “…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,22:51)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 28 2010,11:47)LUA couple of time, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son.So, we know that the NET translators concluded that the term in John 1:18 is “God” and not “Son.”It can't be both, it is either “God” or “Son.” If it is “God” then that verse is extremely significant. It is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,21:04)To whoever is interestedJhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. If Jesus was God, this scripture would not be true.Jesus is the only begotten SON of God, not the only begotten god. Why does it say “ONLY” begotten? Col.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2010,19:47)LUA couple of time, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son.So, we know that the NET translators concluded that the term in John 1:18 is “God” and not “Son.”It can't be both, it is either “God” or “Son.” If it is “God” then that verse is extremely significant. It is one of those questions that we take to the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2010,19:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2010,11:26)John begins his book with a “God” with “God” concept and near the end John quotes Thomas as saying “My Lord and my God.”Hi again Kathi,And even closer to the end of John he says:Quote 30Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,19:09)Hi LU, Is this in all the manuscripts?No. Only begotten Son is in some.So Nick, shall we flip a coin to find out which one is correct, “God” or “son.”John begins his book with a “God” with “God” concept and near the end John quotes Thomas as saying “My Lord and my God.”A couple of time, John calls Jesus the…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Hello all,Much is made about the term “monogenes theos” in John 1:18. Some on here don't even translate “monogenes” when they recite the verse that it is found in. They just say “monogenes….” Of course, I don't think that the word “only” is giving us the fullness of the term. The Greek word “monos” is where we get “only” and if John meant…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Tsunami warning in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 16 years, 6 months ago
Praying for your safety! Keep us informed.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2010,20:17)Hi Kathi,Q and A time
Quote How do you show that love to Jesus nowadays if you do not have a relationship with Him? Like this: Dear Heavenly Father Jehovah, ….and thank you for the sacrifice of your only son, whom I love…..I pray this to you through you son, Jesus Christ, without whom I would be n…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2010,16:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2010,06:42)Hi Mike,I think that you have not grasped that I worship the Son 'as the Son' and not 'as the Father.Hi Kathi,Wow! That's a lot of questions!
Quote You say that you worship Jesus in the sense that you greatly love and admire Him.First of all, I will never again say…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2010,14:47)Hi LU, Godhead? What is a godhead??Nick,You keep asking that. Paul answers that:1 Cor 8:66 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. NASU
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Another thing on my mind,I think that Mike and terraricca or JustAskin pointed out that the Pharisees didn't get all uppity when Jesus was worshiped and that would indicate that it was more of an act of honor. Well, I don't believe the Pharisees were around to witness those incidents and I don't think they would have approved of an act of honor…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2010,13:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2010,10:06)Mike,My point is that wrestling with words does not in and of itself bring truth. I think that we already knew that the word for worship had different meanings. So, sorry, no light bulb.Hi Kathi, I, for one never knew there was more than one definition of worship. …[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 21 2010,12:31)LU,What is described in Phil 2:10-11 is not Worship!It is in accordance with Revelations where all creatures in heaven and earth…'Praise, Honor and Glorify' God and Christ.The verses in Revelation say that God and the Lamb are honored, praised and glorified…but …only God (He who is, was, and is to come -…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 6 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 21 2010,09:06)Kathi,Even in Heaven, via the book of Revelation, John alludes to worship the angel who brought the testimony of Christ.The angel tells John:'See you do not do that for I am you fellow servant. WORSHIP GOD!'Why does the angel, who is bringing the testimony of Christ Jesus, not say '…Worship God and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Christians and muslims believe the same thing in the forum Other Faiths 16 years, 6 months ago
So, I was interested in what people were saying that read Joel Richardson's book and this is just one of the reviews. Btw, Joel's book got 98 reviews and 63 of those gave it their highest rating of 5 stars. I found it on http://www.amazon.com under the title Antichrist: Islam's Awaited Messiah Quote Compelling Book!! Mandatory Reading!!!, April 14,…[Read more]
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