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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,19:36)Hi lU, No. Jesus was not one with God in any way till he obeyed God's will and was found clean at the jordan to be given a share of God's Spirit.Nick,God refers to Jesus as “His own arm” and the Jews worshiped God and His arm as one, echad-unity. With this “arm” (the Son) God also founded the earth and…[Read more]

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    Good job Nick,I agree!Their spiritual unity has existed since the Son existed before creation.

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,00:45)Hello!  Knowing that with God all is possible, I come here to ask for your prayers.  Our only Granddaughter is having some real upsetting problems.  She just turned 18 on March 18.  I am sorry but I can't tell you what it is, but it is very upsetting for our Granddaughter and Daughter and the whole Family.  Pl…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,00:43)Hi LU, 2Cor3.17This is the great understanding Paul came to that explains jn 14 18-23Nick,I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here in regards to the discussion. Do you want to expand on your thoughts?

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    Thanks Nick,It is too late to decipher this now…maybe later.Goodnight

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,00:22)Hi LU, The LORD is the Spirit.Jesus in the NT is the Lord of all.Jesus is only alive in the Spirit and now any reference to him is also to the Spirit.Nick,Would you mind showing me the scripture ref. for the Lord is the Spirit.Thanks!

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    I found this article here about the trinitarian formula for baptism:http://www.sidroth.org/site….rl=1051It was written by Lonnie Lane, a fourth generation Jew but first generation believer in Yeshua. It is pretty interesting.Quote …What we call “The Great Commission” reads in most of our Bibles this way: “Go therefore and make disciples of al…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,23:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,14:00)Hi Mike,I told you that I have been interested in the Jewish perspective lately.  Recently God has highlighted the “outstretched arm” of God to me.  The Jews saw God as one being with an outstretched arm and that is who they worshiped.  I am once again seeing the si…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,Yes it has been a while. About the Pharisees…I do think the spirit of the Pharisees are among some of our most regular members of HN and they have had a problem with the whole outstretched arm of the Lord being the Son. Too bad really because it really helps explain things.

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    Hi Mike,I told you that I have been interested in the Jewish perspective lately. Recently God has highlighted the “outstretched arm” of God to me. The Jews saw God as one being with an outstretched arm and that is who they worshiped. I am once again seeing the significance of that outstretched arm revealed as the Son of God and lo and behold I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,17:57)Hi LU, The Spirit of God that was in Jesus and the prophets created.Ps104Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.The finger and the arm of God.Not exactly Nick,The spirit gave the breath of life to that which God created through the Son.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,18:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,18:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,17:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,18:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,17:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,17:12)Hi LU, Jesus was not a part of God before he was born.Nick,He wasn't a literal arm. The Jews concept of God included His outstretched arm and lo and behold, we are told that the outstretched arm is the Son of God. It turns out that they were worshiping the Father and the Son without realizing it. Many of…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:49)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,15:40)Hi LU, No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.Nick,Oh really???Jer…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 23 2010,16:45)Kathi said:Quote The “hand” is the Son:“Hand” signifies “power.” It is the “power” of the Son which is meant in Hebrews 1:10.thinkerCertainly the hand was the Son's but the power was God's.Jer 32:17-2217 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and by Your outstretched…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,15:40)Hi LU, No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.Nick,Oh really???Jer 32:17-2217 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,14:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,05:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of the Jews all by Himself. He, as the Son, was with His Father as the God (Father) with…[Read more]

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