Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 28 2010,04:11)LU,I don't understand your response to my post. What did you mean by 'there is only one begotten son'?Does the Scriptures not say that we will be 'Joint Heirs' with Christ? (Rev 20:4, 6; 22:5; Galations 4:7)JustAskin,We are joint heirs with Christ but He is/was/will be the only actual, literal son of God and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,01:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,16:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,00:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,15:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,23:09)Hi LU, There are no scriptures that say Jesus was a combined God with his God and then God's arm divided from God and cameNeither are there two…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,23:34)LUjewish phylosophy, through out history ,they never fallow allways at to go there way,look history for what result they have recieved from their God ,you just like to go the same way,this is not the true way of Godterraricca,We are to encourage one another as we see the day drawing near dear terraricca. Let…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,00:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,15:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,23:09)Hi LU, There are no scriptures that say Jesus was a combined God with his God and then God's arm divided from God and cameNeither are there two Gods.Nick,OR you haven't been given that revelation yet.  Do you think that God is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,23:09)Hi LU, There are no scriptures that say Jesus was a combined God with his God and then God's arm divided from God and cameNeither are there two Gods.Nick,OR you haven't been given that revelation yet. Do you think that God is with Himself in John 1:1?In the beginning was the word and the word was with God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,19:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,08:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:35)Jesus IS the outstretched arm.  Isaiah sees this and writes about it and is confirmed in John.Hi Kathi,I should have rephrased it.  Where is “the outstretched arm” worshipped as God A…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 27 2010,18:56)Elizabeth,Could the word 'Divine' be a better description for Jesus rather than 'Deity'.One cannot 'become God' but one can become 'Godlike'.Those born into the first resurrection and taken into heaven to rule with Christ will also be 'Divine', 'brothers' with Christ!If, they too, were 'Deity', how many…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2010,03:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2010,18:41)Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 27 2010,02:31)Even if there was such a tradition of planting a memorial tree; how can you draw a connection between that tree, and a cross made from two beams that Jesus died on?GeorgI don't think it is so much of a stretch Georg.  The cross was beams…[Read more]

Mike,You said:Jesus said:QuoteJohn 17:3 NIV Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.And this “only true God” is the one that Jesus repeatedly points people to and says to worship. Doesn't that imply that we must exclude the worship of any other god or idol? Even if it is “the only…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:32)Do you think the OT God is not the NT God?Mike,The OT God is the NT God but less revealed.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,07:28)Jesus is not an angel…they were made through Him, see Col. 1.  He made all things in heaven, visible and invisible, remember.Hi Kathi,No, all things were made BY God THROUGH Jesus.  And although Jesus is the only creation of God that was begotten directly from God, t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:35)Jesus IS the outstretched arm.  Isaiah sees this and writes about it and is confirmed in John.Hi Kathi,I should have rephrased it.  Where is “the outstretched arm” worshipped as God Almighty?Mike,The outstretched arm isn't ever worshiped apart from God Almighty in the O…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,15:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:53)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,14:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Seem like a marathon yet?you said:Quote You quoted:QuoteRev 22:6-96 And he said to me, “These words are faithful and true”; and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent His angel to show to His bond-servants the things which must soon take place.But you should have started one verse earlier:Quote5There will be no more night.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,15:17)Hi LU, You used to say Jesus was another god, the only begotten one but now you say he was always part of God. So what do you believe?Nick,The arm is the only begotten God and always was, imo. The arm is figurative.

Hi Mike,Quote The Bible and Jesus in particular are clear about who to worship – God. And considering “angel” means “messenger”, you could be correct in saying Jesus was an angel.QuoteJohn 13:16 NIVI tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.I think Jesus was always greater…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Is Jesus also the “signs, wonders, war, mighty hand, and great terrors”?You said:QuoteJesus is not an angel. The Bible is clear about not worshiping angels but it never says not to worship the Son does it.The Bible and Jesus in particular are clear about who to worship – God. And considering “angel” means “messenger”, you could be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,14:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,14:29)Hi LU, God is not divided but one. God wants all to be made one with Him in His Son.Is Jesus not the Son of God now you make him an integral part of God?Nick,Keep it in the order of revelation…first God reveals the God of Israel as the one with the outstretched arm, then He reveals His arm as His son and…[Read more]