Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,19:56)Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2010,11:48)Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,18:29)For LU.Comments left unanswered…Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2010,08:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,01:07)Hi Kathi,Verse 3 says, Then he said: “Jehovah, if, now, I have found favor in your eyes, please do not pass by your servantIt d…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,18:29)For LU.Comments left unanswered…Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2010,08:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,01:07)Hi Kathi,Verse 3 says, Then he said: “Jehovah, if, now, I have found favor in your eyes, please do not pass by your servantIt doesn't seem that Abraham singled one of the men out and said that, for v…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,04:29)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,18:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,01:39)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,16:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,00:25)Hi LU, You need these experts to tell you what the words mean?What of the Spirit?Nick,I have known what this verse meant for a long time before I read…[Read more]

Just Askin,Are you reading the same scriptures as everyone else? you ask:Quote Why does Lot address angels as “Your Servant” (vrs 19)?Where does Lot address angels as “Your Servant?. Lot is calling himself the servant to the angels. Lot realizes that they are from God.I can't address the rest of your post till you show me where Lot addresses…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,14:56)Hi LU, We know you are convinced in your own mind about these matters. Is that enough to hold up as truth before our awesome God?What is truth-just a smorgasbord of opinions??Nick, Here are a few passages to help you…John 14:66 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,16:07)Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2010,04:54)Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,04:29)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,18:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,01:39)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,16:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,00:25)Hi LU, You need these experts to tell you what the words mean?What of the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,02:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,01:07)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,10:43)The Father tells us they are one in the OT when He speaks of Himself and His Outstretched Arm as one.  We know the Outstretched Arm is the Son.Hi Kathi,I am finally taking the time to look into the outstretched arm.  It seems t…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 26 2010,13:52)People,I have just looked at the verses specified.Lot is talking to Jehovah 'through' the angels. When Jehovah speaks the angels are themselves silent of their own voice.The angels are just mouthpieces – please do not look upon angels as 'Sentient Owning Creatures' when in the presence of God – they know…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,04:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,17:07)Hi Kathi,I think it refers to anybody or anything God used to fulfill His purpose.  What I have so far is not conclusive, but it's a start.You think in Genesis 18, there are two angels and Jehovah the Son.  But verse two starts off saying, 2 When he raised his eyes, then he…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,04:29)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,18:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,01:39)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,16:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,00:25)Hi LU, You need these experts to tell you what the words mean?What of the Spirit?Nick,I have known what this verse meant for a long time before I read…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,01:39)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,16:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,00:25)Hi LU, You need these experts to tell you what the words mean?What of the Spirit?Nick,I have known what this verse meant for a long time before I read these NET notes for the first time tonight.  I was just trying to help you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,01:07)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,10:43)The Father tells us they are one in the OT when He speaks of Himself and His Outstretched Arm as one.  We know the Outstretched Arm is the Son.Hi Kathi,I am finally taking the time to look into the outstretched arm.  It seems that you think it always refers to the S…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,00:25)Hi LU, You need these experts to tell you what the words mean?What of the Spirit?Nick,I have known what this verse meant for a long time before I read these NET notes for the first time tonight. I was just trying to help you since you don't really seem to take my word for it, I thought that I would give…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2010,23:31)Hi LU, I am not sure if Rom 1 agrees with you.Raised by the Spirit of holiness declared his sonship.Nick,Here is Romans 1:4 and the NET translator notes. That should help clear up your confusion.Quote NET ©who was appointed the Son-of-God-in-power 1 according to the Holy Spirit 2 by the resurrection 3…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2010,23:00)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2010,10:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2010,17:18)Quote (JustAskin @ April 26 2010,05:29)“The Son of God is the Son by inheritance”.hi Kathi and Ja,I don't think that is in Scripture at all.  If so, where?peace and love,mikeMike and JA,All my boys inherited the name “son” by…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2010,23:05)Hi LU, The sonship we can follow him into brotherhood is only that of the Jordan. We must be reborn from above.Quote The way that I see it is this:These are the opinions on HN about the sonship of THE Son of God:1.He was begotten as in born of God and not created before creation.2.He was created directly by…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 25 2010,19:45)LU,Quote Heb 1:66 And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, “AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.” NASUThis verse is speaking about when Jesus is raised from the dead.When was the First Time that Jesus was brought into the world?  and when was he, AGAIN, brought into the…[Read more]

Welcome chapel247,I think that you might find this interesting.http://www.sidroth.org/site….br=rad_Enjoy,Kathi

Nick,Being filled with God's Spirit is not what made HIM a Son.I didn't ascribe deity to Him, He inherited His nature of deity by the Most High God. Your son inherited his human nature from you and made you and him, two men. The Son of God and His Father make two that are deity. Jesus tells us they are one. The Father tells us they are one in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2010,17:18)Quote (JustAskin @ April 26 2010,05:29)“The Son of God is the Son by inheritance”.hi Kathi and Ja,I don't think that is in Scripture at all.  If so, where?peace and love,mikeMike and JA,All my boys inherited the name “son” by being begotten of me. The Son of God got His name by being begotten of God, not…[Read more]