Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 04 2010,20:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2010,16:12)Mike,I have concluded that the Spirit must enlighten the scriptures for us because we are going nowhere.Until then we should probably agree to disagree.It has gotten to that point, don't you think?  Unless some new enlightenment comes, I am going to just let this rest on…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 04 2010,20:40)KathyChrist is God son,in how many ways do we have to show it so people can accepted?Christ is God s King,and is kingdom will not pass to any other and is eternal;so Christ is not only the SON but also King.we also know from scriptures that Christ is a priest for ever;SO NOW CHRIST IS THE SON,THE KING,THE…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 04 2010,20:30)Kathi!  First would Jehovah God be eternally begotten?  No,but Jesus is, meaning for all eternity He will be begotten.  I don't think that you can look this up in the Dictionary since it is two words.  We know what eternal means and we know what begotten means.  So put both together and you have Jesus being eter…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,22:45)Kathi:Quote If I built a house THROUGH a particular contractor then we both get credit for building the house.  I may have drawn up the design of the floor plan, forked out the money, chosen all the finishes, hired the contractor BUT the contractor certainly GETS CREDIT for the actual building of the house.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,21:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2010,19:49)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,19:59)Kathymy question did all those questions and study give s us more inside or more confussion ??John 3:16-1816″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have…[Read more]

Keith,I can't believe that you keep writing the Greek word as if it can't be translated.Quote Jesus is the Only Monogenes Son.Are you still having problems with monogenes being 'only begotten?' Well, at least you aren't writing the 'one and only' or the 'only unique one,' so that's good. The creeds have no problem using the word 'begotten' why…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Just noticed your thread. May God continue to strengthen you and that your new kidney continues to improve your health. My dad died in June this year and he had been on kidney dialysis which was no fun for him. So, it is good that you were able to get a transplant.And hello to Mandy, I hope you are doing well, you look the same

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,19:59)Kathymy question did all those questions and study give s us more inside or more confussion ??John 3:16-1816″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,13:09)Hi Dennison and Kathi,I'll get to your posts probably tomorrow.  I've been babysitting a two year old all weekend………enough said?  peace and love,mikeMike,No hurry…get out those dominoes Have a fun time!

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 03 2010,08:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 12 2010,19:52)Colossians 1:15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:Christ was Created claim:Based SOLELY on this scripture many have stated that Christ has been created in the beginning. Which i strongly believe is false. the only scripture that is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 03 2010,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,12:46)You can't BE “THE GOD”, and at the same time be WITH “THE GOD” Keith.Why not? You can be with your wife and still be one flesh, right? They share the same Spirit and nature and they are “One God”.WJKeith,This is a different comparison:Gen 2:23Then the man said,…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 03 2010,04:44)Lu, all I did was post some facts on mormonism.  These are the points I was drawing attention to….Mormonism teaches that Jesus is a procreated being, the literal offspring of God the Father To support their view, Mormons appeal to John 3:16, which states Jesus is the “only begotten.” The Greek word used there…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 02 2010,21:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2010,19:26)Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 02 2010,19:04)Hey,Nice to see some agreement going on in this forum…and between two of my favoured posters, nice.Many agree in error and then some find their way to truth.  Narrow is the path but few find it.Kathywhy is ? ;; Narrow is the path…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2010,22:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2010,13:24)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2010,17:45)The only ones who believe God procreated another equal god are Mormans, what is spoken of here is mormanism.Actually Shimmer…that is not true at all.  We must be careful what we write and the accusations made.But this all sounds…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 02 2010,19:04)Hey,Nice to see some agreement going on in this forum…and between two of my favoured posters, nice.Many agree in error and then some find their way to truth. Narrow is the path but few find it.

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2010,17:45)The only ones who believe God procreated another equal god are Mormans, what is spoken of here is mormanism.Actually Shimmer…that is not true at all. We must be careful what we write and the accusations made.

Hey Dennison and Pierre,Post what is applicable to the topic…please

Good job Mike,You are pointing out to me that the angels were the beginning of the creatures. At last!! You are so right

Pierre,You are right that God made everything through His Son. When people say that God created things out of nothing, they generally mean there was no pre-existent material that He used to make material things. Yes, He made man from the dust and the dust came from the planet but the planet and material universe came out of nothing material.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2010,00:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2010,22:49)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2010,22:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2010,23:29)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2010,00:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2010,23:02)Mike,Quote 1.  The “firstborn” of any group is ALWAYS a part of that group.  So Jesus MUST be a part OF creation in o…[Read more]