Irene,I know that you don't understand why I am interested in what the forefather's believed and if you aren't interested in what they believed you can choose one of the other bizillion topics to discuss. No one is making you pick this one and no one will feel bad if you don't post here. OK? You want to know if they were trinitarian, one way to…[Read more]

Irene,I'll let WJ share if and when he feels like he should do that, just know that it is not health related.Thanks for praying!Kathi

Pray for WJ ya'll. He and his family need us to lift them up to the Lord.Thanks, Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 19 2010,17:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2010,14:13)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 19 2010,13:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2010,10:47)Pierre,The Son is Lord and is also called God, so is the Father called Lord and God.  He is everything the Father is except He was from Him.Kathiwhat is that you do not make sense,could spell it…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 19 2010,17:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2010,07:12)Hi Irene,If you don't think that Jesus is part of the God of commandment one, then tell me what commandment has you honoring the Messiah?  Think about it, there are 10 commandments.  Which one tells us to honor the Messiah?  Was it not important?  All the prophets point tow…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2010,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2010,08:28)Mike,This sorta sounds like you:Acts 18:12-1312 And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat,13 Saying, This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the law.KJV What do you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 19 2010,13:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2010,10:47)Pierre,The Son is Lord and is also called God, so is the Father called Lord and God.  He is everything the Father is except He was from Him.Kathiwhat is that you do not make sense,could spell it out so i can understand what you are saying???PierrePierre, Which part confuses you?

Hi Irene,If you don't think that Jesus is part of the God of commandment one, then tell me what commandment has you honoring the Messiah? Think about it, there are 10 commandments. Which one tells us to honor the Messiah? Was it not important? All the prophets point towards Him.

Pierre,The Son is Lord and is also called God, so is the Father called Lord and God. He is everything the Father is except He was from Him.

Keith,I'm so sorry for whatever you are going through. May our Great God be very near to you right now. I'll look you up on FB.Praying for you and yours,Kathi

Mike,Quote And you know this………how?The word was God, perfect beget perfect, not less than. He is an image, an exact representation of His nature, not sort of an image and not less than His nature.Quote You are using this “heaven/earth” contrast quite frequently. Do you know that the things of God on earth are mere copies of how they are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2010,23:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2010,14:58)Jesus spoke from the viewpoint of being a man in His humanity and from the viewpoint of being God OF God in His divinity.Hi Kathi,To which scripture do you refer where Jesus spoke as “God OF God”?mikeMike,There are many…I am the Light of the world.I am the bread that…[Read more]

Mike,He is less than God only because He was “of” God and not in any other way.Quote Why on earth would we show God's servant an EQUAL amount of honor as we show God Almighty Himself? Did King David's servants receive an EQUAL amount of honor as King David did?First off, we aren't talking about 'earthly' servants. Secondly, the 'expression' of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2010,22:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2010,14:23)You seem to think that He was at one point weaker, less wise, less powerful than the Father and then the Father gave Him these powers at some point after being begotten.  I think He had them from the get go of His being begotten and existed for Him even before being…[Read more]

Mike,Quote The “all knees shall bow” should be enough for you to know that use of “proskuneo” has the “doing obeisance” meaning.If ALL knees shall bow by the direction of the Father then that tells you that He is someone divine and not someone equal to an earthly king.Quote It is the same Greek word for “even as” and “just as” in both scriptures.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2010,21:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2010,03:33)Thanks for your answer Mike!And thanks for your honest answer that if the same circumstances involved Jesus instead of Paul, you would count “bowing down to” as “God Worship”. Doesn't that tell you something?  Are you maybe reading the scriptures with a bias that you…[Read more]

Irene and Pierre,The angels were told to worship the Son…right?And we are told by Jesus, Himself, to: John 5:23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.to honor means: to estimate, fix the valuefor the value of something belonging to one's selfto honour,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 17 2010,22:14)Really Kathi?  I don't think they were used to worshipping the ONLY TRUE GOD through his Son.  To them, it had always been only YHVH, and Paul was introducing them to YHVH's Son, whom we must go through to be saved.That's what I THINK, anyway.  Why, do you know of any instance where Paul indicated we sh…[Read more]

Mike,This sorta sounds like you:Acts 18:12-1312 And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat,13 Saying, This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the law.KJV What do you think Paul was teaching that made them make that conclusion?

Hi Pierre,Thanks for sharing your favorite Psalm. I like this part:Ps 73:23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand. Ps 73:24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory. Ps 73:25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee. Ps 73:26 My…[Read more]