Carmel,

Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.

Psalms 2:7

“I will declare the decree:
The Lord has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
8Ask of Me, and I will give You
The nations f…

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Berean,

You forgot this

RESURRECTION

Strong’s #386 anastasis: a standing up, i.e. a resurrection, a raising up, rising.

Jesus raised up His “temple” on the third day by ascending to the Father.

Both words you listed can mean rise/raise up.

God raised Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit, from the dead and showed Him to Mary. Then Jesus…[Read more]

Gene,

I choose to make Jesus Lord of my life or not, no one can force me. My God is much bigger than a god that forces his will on others.

Berean,

Jesus laid down His life for His sheep starting with the agreement to empty Himself and become a bondservant. He took it up again when He ascended back to His Father and received all authority in heaven and on earth. His ascension to the Father on day three after He was talking to Mary is the part of the resurrection that Jesus did by His…[Read more]

Berean,

LU: Can you show me a verse that is about Jesus’s resurrection that the grammar shows Jesus doing the action in an active voice as opposed to a passive voice?

Berean:

… in an active voice …!!!???

Sorry, that is confusing if you do not know Greek grammar. You see, the verbs in Greek have specific endings that tell many things about the v…[Read more]

Gene,

If our will was not greater than God’s will, we wouldn’t be asked to surrender our will. God can make us do things against our will if He needs to but that would be merciful, not obligatory. God wants us to lay down our life and take up our cross, He doesn’t force us to however. We have a choice. When we lay down our life and take up our…[Read more]

Interesting Proclaimer, thanks for posting. Another example of the rocks crying out!

Gene, if the Holy Spirit possesses us and forces us to speak and act and obey, when we receive the Holy Spirit, then the fruit of the Spirit would not be “self-control” it would be other controlled.

Galatians 5:22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness, and self-control.

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Berean,

Can you show me a verse that is about Jesus’s resurrection that the grammar shows Jesus doing the action in an active voice as opposed to a passive voice?

Hi Berean,

Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

The phrase “I will raise” is written in the active voice as opposed to the passive voice. The active voice in Greek means that the subject does the action. Jesus will raise His body up Himself.

On the third day, this is the only part of the complete resurrection that was…[Read more]

So, now that you know about the Greek words for Christ and anointing, this still stands:

Hi Gene,

I believe that it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet who wrote the words down,  which shows the existence of Christ in the OT.

Gene,

You said: LU……Yes the “Spirit” . Of the anointing, ie the Christo’s, ,  which is the Spirit of GOD .

Well, it is the Spirit of the God who inherits the nations, for sure. And to say that the Spirit of Christ should be understood as the spirit of the anointing is incorrect. That would be a different Greek word. Proof::

1 Peter 1:

10As t…

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Gene,

18The Jews then said to Him, “What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?” 19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21But He was speaking of the temple of His body.…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

I believe that it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet who wrote the words down,  which shows the existence of Christ in the OT.

Berean,

You said:

Only GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN PERSON.

Is Jesus the true God in person who will inherit the nations?

Hi Gene,

Yes, it is about a future event. My question was…who said the prophesy? Who said:

“I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

Who is the I, Me, and the You? And was that prophesy told in the OT or not?

Thanks, LU

Gene (posted a third time without your reply, btw.),

Who is speaking in this passage:

7I will proclaim the decree

spoken to Me by the LORD:

“You are My Son;

today I have become Your Father.

Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?

Please answer both of those questions Gene.

Blessings, LU

Proclaimer:

You said:

If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?

The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.

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Hi Berean,

You said:

The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.

Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

You quoted this:

Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out. We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our e…

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