Mike,you said:Quote Why do you insist that it means “God-Worship” in each and every reference to Jesus? Let me refine your question to “Why do you insist that it means 'religious worship' in several references to Jesus?It is like you gloss right over the term I use…'religious worship' vs. 'civil worship.'  I believe that the people gave Jesus…[Read more]

Pierre,I can't understand what you wrote, can you rewrite it please?

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 20 2010,13:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2010,05:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2010,11:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2010,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2010,07:31)true but He tells Peter to feed HIS sheep, He doesn't say to feed His Father's sheep but His sheep.Does Jesus refer to the ones that his God has given him…[Read more]

Mike said about the NWT's tranlation of proskuneo:Quote What I was pointing out is that the word “proskuneo” CAN mean either the worship due God OR simply a showing of reverence and honor to others.What you need to realize is that proskuneo can mean either religious worship or civil worship. Religious reverence and honor to 'a god' would violate…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 20 2010,13:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 21 2010,04:41)For indeed Jews  ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness,  24 but to those who are the  called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 20 2010,12:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 21 2010,11:41)Pierre,But Moses was never said to have existed in the beginning and to have caused all things into being and all before coming in the flesh.  There is little comparison between the Son as 'god' and Moses as 'a god.'  The Son did all through the power of God because He i…[Read more]

Pierre,But Moses was never said to have existed in the beginning and to have caused all things into being and all before coming in the flesh. There is little comparison between the Son as 'god' and Moses as 'a god.' The Son did all through the power of God because He is the power of God, Moses was not.For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 20 2010,02:05)Lightenup,It certainly looks like the experts debate over what the words of Psalms 110:3 are I would at most be one more voice is a bable of voices.  Each of us would most likely be lead to select those translation which best fit what we already believe.  Verses such as this because of the debate they cause are n…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 20 2010,07:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 19 2010,09:10)Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 18 2010,20:37)1)  They were worshiping the spirit of God, not Elisha. Also the spirit of God in David, who could do nothing in himself but only with Gods sprit.Moooooo2)  You can  second  guess the writers of the bible. I will accept it as Gods wor…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 19 2010,06:22)Lightenup,In regards to your post that started this thread, I do not see a connection between the word “morning” in Psalms 110:3 and the “morning” in Genesis 1:5.  How do you come to the conclusion there is?If you read Psalms 110:2 you will see the words “The Lord will” as in the future.  In the NIV version of sc…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,I don't know how to play air command but I am seeing all that a god can do and think that He is a lot like a real God to be like this.

Ok Mike,Maybe you have stopped for the night.  Here are some more verses where I am trying to follow your preferred definition of 'the word was a god':John 1:14-1814 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. And a god became flesh, and dwelt among…[Read more]

Mike,Let's keep trying this…John 1:44 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. NASUIn Him-a god-was life, and the life was the Light of men.Here we see that life was in 'a god' and that life that was in a god was the light of men.John 1:10-1310 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He…[Read more]

Mike,another-John 1:22 He was in the beginning with God.NASU'A god' was in the beginning with God.John 1:33 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. NASUAll things came into being through Him-a god, and apart from Him-a god nothing came into being that has come into being.

Ok good Mike, let's play a little game here and put up a few scriptures that mention Jesus in some way and put in 'a god' to see how that reads. Are you game?For instance:For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son-'a god', that whosoever believed in Him-a god- should not perish but have everlasting life. John…

Mike,You believe that John 1:1c says that the word was 'a god.' Right?And you believe that 'god' that the word was, is Jesus…right?So that means that you believe in a God and a god…still right?Also, then that would mean that you bow down to a God and a god…correct?

You are welcome Pierre. I thought that was quite a leap for you to have made that comment. LOL

Pierre,You want to re-read what you just posted?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2010,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2010,07:31)true but He tells Peter to feed HIS sheep, He doesn't say to feed His Father's sheep but His sheep.Does Jesus refer to the ones that his God has given him out of the world?Scriptures say “Yes”.  In fact, Jesus says, “they were yours, but you gave them to me.”mikeMike,I…[Read more]

This strange message board gets stranger and stranger, LOL.